Are you on Facebook?

[el_draco (Rom)]

Originally Posted by multiweb

Hi Ron, your online trail or online identity, personal data, call it what you will is simply shared and used for trending, targeted advertising, etc... That is a fact.

...and the source of the fact is??? Do a casual online search under "faecesbook security issues" and get worried... fast. The founder of this Crapapp has stated publically that persoanl privacy is dead.

As I recall, our equally corrupt Govt., (for 20 years), stated that our tax file numbers would only be used to ensure they were dealing with the correct individual when corresponding about tax related issues.... yeah right, (check out the data matching act), and this is a government, (admittedly, a government run largely by a cartel of corrupt lawyers).

If you can't trust your government why on earth would you trust a profit driven company? Faecesbook will do whatever it can to make a profit including passing on any and every piece of info they have on you. NO ethics involved.

As many people are finding out to their utter horror, this garbage can be used against you forever. It's now costing people their careers and, in a number of cases, their lives.

Faecesbooks so called privacy settings are pure fantasy designed to convince the gullible that they can make fools of themselves online... with nobody watching

Data=information=power and Power corrupts

[jjjnettie (Jeanette)]

Got no money to spend so their advertising is wasted on me.
I find it amusing watching the ads change though. I mentioned elephants once in a reply to a post and next thing you know, there is an ad for jewelry and there is an elephant on the necklace. LOLOL
I'm basically an honest person, I have nothing to hide.
I'm just a person who enjoys interacting with others who have the same interests as I.
I enjoy learning from them. I love that I'm up to date with the latest happenings in the greater Astronomical community.

[Barrykgerdes]

Originally Posted by jjjnettie

Got no money to spend so their advertising is wasted on me.
I find it amusing watching the ads change though. I mentioned elephants once in a reply to a post and next thing you know, there is an ad for jewelry and there is an elephant on the necklace. LOLOL
I'm basically an honest person, I have nothing to hide.
I'm just a person who enjoys interacting with others who have the same interests as I.
I enjoy learning from them. I love that I'm up to date with the latest happenings in the greater Astronomical community.

Ebay is the same. Make a bid on something or just mark it and watch all the suggestions come up with items that you might be interested in. Any wonder why these sites are traded in $billions.

Barry

[multiweb (Marc)]

Yeah, the ATO data thing was a beauty. People complained a bit at the time I remember but what would be have been considered unethical or just not on 10yrs ago is now common practice.

I have been in the industry for well over 15yrs. I have seen things change first hand from the inside out and countless time I found myself thinking or saying "wow! hang on! you can't do that!" to only be replied "nah!... how would they know" or "...everybody's doing it now". I have seen pieces of software going viral distributed for one advertised purpose while the backend was designed to collect personal data.

Then you wonder why we are force fed ads and indundated with spam. I deal with 80000 spams per 24h slice. Identity theft is also becoming a major issue. People now will trust a computer more than a poor bugger who's been hacked saying I didn't do it. I never sign up or bought this.

Call me old school but to me respecting people and privacy is gold and just what it is: private. If I am using an online service that collected information or data about me from any other source then I have a problem. I don't think it's right.

There's an old saying in the industry. If you're data is not on your box it's on somebody else's. Dont kid yourself, You've be owned.

[Karls48 (Karl)]

Originally Posted by acropolite

I use it a little, the interface to me is a dogs breakfast, disjointed and illogical.

My wife uses it, I keep away from it

[Octane (Humayun)]

This article is now a little dated, it was written when there 59 million users, but it still stands:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology...an/14/facebook

Make of it what you will.

If you enjoy using it and aren't concerned with all the pitfalls and creepiness hidden in the terms of service, more power to you!

Me, personally, email and phone still works! : D

H

[multiweb (Marc)]

Originally Posted by Octane

Me, personally, email and phone still works! : D

Too true. I like the following three words: Get a life

Here's the punchline below IMHO. I rest my case.
Dump your 1200 friends, by a rod, get out fishing and enjoy real friends.

The creators of the site need do very little bar fiddle with the programme. In the main, they simply sit back and watch as millions of Facebook addicts voluntarily upload their ID details, photographs and lists of their favourite consumer objects. Once in receipt of this vast database of human beings, Facebook then simply has to sell the information back to advertisers, or, as Zuckerberg puts it in a recent blog post, "to try to help people share information with their friends about things they do on the web". And indeed, this is precisely what's happening. On November 6 last year, Facebook announced that 12 global brands had climbed on board. They included Coca-Cola, Blockbuster, Verizon, Sony Pictures and Condé Nast. All trained in marketing bull**** of the highest order, their representatives made excited comments along the following lines:
"With Facebook Ads, our brands can become a part of the way users communicate and interact on Facebook," said Carol Kruse, vice president, global interactive marketing, the Coca-Cola Company.
"We view this as an innovative way to cultivate relationships with millions of Facebook users by enabling them to interact with Blockbuster in convenient, relevant and entertaining ways," said Jim Keyes, Blockbuster chairman and CEO. "This is beyond creating advertising impressions. This is about Blockbuster participating in the community of the consumer so that, in return, consumers feel motivated to share the benefits of our brand with their friends."
"Share" is Facebookspeak for "advertise". Sign up to Facebook and you become a free walking, talking advert for Blockbuster or Coke, extolling the virtues of these brands to your friends. We are seeing the commodification of human relationships, the extraction of capitalistic value from friendships.

[el_draco (Rom)]

Originally Posted by multiweb

The creators of the site need do very little bar fiddle with the programme. In the main, they simply sit back and watch as millions of Facebook addicts voluntarily upload their ID details, photographs and lists of their favourite consumer objects. Once in receipt of this vast database of human beings, Facebook then simply has to sell the information back to advertisers, or, as Zuckerberg puts it in a recent blog post, "to try to help people share information with their friends about things they do on the web". And indeed, this is precisely what's happening. On November 6 last year, Facebook announced that 12 global brands had climbed on board. They included Coca-Cola, Blockbuster, Verizon, Sony Pictures and Condé Nast.

I dont do Coke, Blockbuster, Sony nor do I even know what the other two are... (How delightful!)

Parasites like Zuckerberg can shove that up his provervial and smoke it!
... and I spend maybe $20 bucks a month on the mobile and that bloody thing is teetering on the edge of a long dive to the bottom of the Tamar River!

[Jen]

Originally Posted by el_draco

Hell No, its like selling your soul to the devil. Security holes everywhere and they get to keep your info and do whatever they want with it FOREVER!
Apart from that, its one more piece of crap designed to stop people talking to each other. Just about every warning bell I have screams at me about this crapapp.

Well its no different than the information that you have put on here if i wanted to find you i could You live in Hobart about 938 kilometeres away from me and if i worked out your cordinates i could pretty much hunt u down hehehe and i also know your a teacher so during school hours i can sneak over to your place and steal your G11 and people dont have to be a member of IIS to see that information
You have to be added as a friend to see that sort of information on Facebook

[multiweb (Marc)]

Originally Posted by Jen

Well its no different than the information that you have put on here if i wanted to find you i could You live in Hobart about 938 kilometeres away from me and if i worked out your cordinates i could pretty much hunt u down hehehe and i also know your a teacher so during school hours i can sneak over to your place and steal your G11 and people dont have to be a member of IIS to see that information
You have to be added as a friend to see that sort of information on Facebook

True but this is information Rom has chosen to post publicly. Big difference... What we're talking about here is one organisation consolidating data about individual users coming from different sources, both public and private including content from their hard drive accessed through browser caching, activex or other means. It goes far beyond public posts and it is not rocket science. There are many ways to do this. Believe me you would be shocked. Ignorance is bliss.

[el_draco (Rom)]

Originally Posted by Jen

Well its no different than the information that you have put on here if i wanted to find you i could You live in Hobart about 938 kilometeres away from me and if i worked out your cordinates i could pretty much hunt u down hehehe and i also know your a teacher so during school hours i can sneak over to your place and steal your G11 and people dont have to be a member of IIS to see that information
You have to be added as a friend to see that sort of information on Facebook

Go for it Jen.. When you grab my G11, watch out for the motion sensing camera, and the killer possums.... There are 250,000 people here and I aint in the city. Not listed in phone book either, so you'll be struggling a bit there. Mail goes to other than my direct address... hmmm

Of course, it is quite possible to find me, a bit of IT savy makes it pretty easy, unfortunately, but not so easy as on faecesbook where many gullible individuals pour the information out like they are trying to unburden their souls...., and the Zuck makes money out of it!

Here, I don't tell people what, where when and with whom I am doing anything... You'd blush if I did... , but thats the crap you get on faecesbook by the truckload. Nor do I have to brag about how many so called "friends" I have as if I am trying to prove I am popular.

[iceman (Mike)]

Gee the haters come out of the wood-work and just keep on it don't they!

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion.

I'm IT-Savvy and tech-savvy and facebook-savvy enough to make my own decisions about what I post on FB and what I share on any online site, and understand the consequences.

[multiweb (Marc)]

Originally Posted by iceman

Gee the haters come out of the wood-work and just keep on it don't they!

No hate. Just simple facts that 90% of people are not aware of when browsing online. We're all adults and can make our own mind but there's no harm in laying it out on the table for everybody to see so everything is clear and you can make an informed choice.

[Octane (Humayun)]

I don't see any hate. Just the truth.

H

[el_draco (Rom)]

Originally Posted by multiweb

No hate. Just simple facts that 90% of people are not aware of when browsing online. We're all adults and can make our own mind but there's no harm in laying it out on the table for everybody to see so everything is clear and you can make an informed choice.

Didn't start the conversation but I get irked when people give up their rights without the slghest undertanding of what they are actually doing. Many may think it is innocent, but this thing is sucking away our right to privacy and people are starting to lose their careers, and some, far more.

EVERYTHING you say or post on that thing is available for sale forever, whether you think you have "privacy" or not. That is the one simple, incontrevertible fact that is out there about faecesbook!

I dont hate it, waste of time, it nauseates me.

[iceman (Mike)]

Ron you call it immature names every time you type it. That looks like hating to me.

I have no problems with people who don't like it - it just annoys me when they've stated their opinions, and then keep coming back every 2nd or 3rd post to state it again and again.

[kinetic (Steve)]

Yeah y'all...all you haters...Gingers DO have souls....

what's facebook?

[Octane (Humayun)]

Oh, Steve. I will have to pm you a Yahoo! Answers page, re: gingers.

H

[Octane (Humayun)]

Rom,

www.lamebook.com

F*c*b**k recently trademarked the word "face" and lamebook got kicked off because it contains the word "book" in its name.

H

[Barrykgerdes]

Hi Rom
I notice no one has commented on your "spelling" of facebook but I agree that that about sums it up.

Barry