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Old 22-04-2010, 10:24 AM
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Shut down Stellarium. Rename your config.ini. Start Stellarium. Redo your customisations.
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Where possible an entry has been provided for the confi.ini file to new turn these features ON/OFF to suit displays that do not cater for them.
The Stellarium directory system does not contain a file named config.ini, only default_config.ini (under /data). Renaming default_config.ini has no effect on the problem. Renaming the config.ini file that resides in C:\Documents and Settings\Michael\Application Data\Stellarium, has no effect on the problem. Renaming both files prevents Stellarium opening.

If the problem can in fact be resolved by simple config file tweaks as suggested, then it appears to be more an issue of Stellarium programmers having problems writing effective installation/initialisation routines, than "ATI's inability to write good OpenGL drivers." Nevertheless, as an interim measure, I propose renaming OpenGL, to ClosedGL.

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This version includes many new features that are highly desirable for use in Stellarium but required many changes to the basic code.
I cannot agree that any software feature is "highly desirable" when it leads to such widespread user problems. If a significant proportion of all PC's worldwide utilise ATI graphics technology, unless fully resolved, this compatibility issue will trouble many users for years to come.
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Old 22-04-2010, 11:38 AM
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The Stellarium directory system does not contain a file named config.ini, only default_config.ini (under /data). Renaming default_config.ini has no effect on the problem. Renaming the config.ini file that resides in C:\Documents and Settings\Michael\Application Data\Stellarium, has no effect on the problem. Renaming both files prevents Stellarium opening.

If the problem can in fact be resolved by simple config file tweaks as suggested, then it appears to be more an issue of Stellarium programmers having problems writing effective installation/initialisation routines, than "ATI's inability to write good OpenGL drivers." Nevertheless, as an interim measure, I propose renaming OpenGL, to ClosedGL.

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I cannot agree that any software feature is "highly desirable" when it leads to such widespread user problems. If a significant proportion of all PC's worldwide utilise ATI graphics technology, unless fully resolved, this compatibility issue will trouble many users for years to come.
All the current variations to the operation and configuration of stellarium are held in the documents and settings/user area- application data\stellarium. Stellarium looks here for loading information that is user changeable. This includes the config.ini file and folders for stars, modules, data, landscapes, scripts etc.

Commercial programs written to make money usually use the Microsoft direct X graphics and because they all need to make money they make sure their programs work with these programs.

OpenGL is a free (open source) program that does the same thing and some extras. It is the way develpers of open source (free programs) can implement great graphics displays. New innovations are being added to graphics all the time and Stellarium tries to use them. Of course some of these innovations require special rendering routines that are not present in all video display drivers without updating.

One of the main aims of Stellarium is the development of new features that can be used in planetarium displays to great effect. These work great on most platforms but if your computer display cannot handle them it is not the problem of Stellarium but the short comings of your display system. The distributed package version of Stellarium is designed to run on the great majority of platforms without user input. However we would like as many people to enjoy Stellarium as possible so we try to implement work arounds to make the basic features work on computers that do not handle the new innovations.

I know there are many computers that run ATI cards and most of them have little bother. But if they do not work it is up to the user to solve using suggestions from various sources. Most of my computers are built from scrap parts and they all work great. The only pre-built computers I use are two of the cheapest (Acer) laptop/notebooks that I could find and they work without changes on XP and Vista.

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Old 22-04-2010, 06:14 PM
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The Stellarium directory system does not contain a file named config.ini, only default_config.ini (under /data). Renaming default_config.ini has no effect on the problem. Renaming the config.ini file that resides in C:\Documents and Settings\Michael\Application Data\Stellarium, has no effect on the problem. Renaming both files prevents Stellarium opening.
It fixed the fonts on my boxes. YMMV.

My apologies for the completely unjustified assumption you knew where things are located. As Barry said, the user config.ini is in:

%APPDATA%\Stellarium

and that the default_config.ini distributed in the patch belongs in:

%ProgramFiles%\Stellarium\data

(or whatever the 32 bit version of %ProgramFiles% is on 64 bit boxes).
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Downloaded and installed today on my Win7 32bit system and got the font issue. I have a ATI X2300 card in my system, I have tried setting use_glshaders = false under %Appdata%/stellarium/config.ini but no change. Text is not readable. I also changed resolution in the ini file to 1440x900 and this made no difference at all. Is there any solution to this?
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Old 10-08-2010, 05:34 PM
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Downloaded and installed today on my Win7 32bit system and got the font issue. I have a ATI X2300 card in my system, I have tried setting use_glshaders = false under %Appdata%/stellarium/config.ini but no change. Text is not readable. I also changed resolution in the ini file to 1440x900 and this made no difference at all. Is there any solution to this?
Hi Fahim

The font problem has been a problem on some computer videos particularly ATI for some time. However I believe a solution has been found and will be implemented in the next release.
In the mean time try use_qpaintenginegl2 = false in the config.ini

This can be implemented also by going to the start menu for stellarium and use the optional start icon.

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Old 10-08-2010, 06:32 PM
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The font problem has been a problem on some computer videos particularly ATI for some time. However I believe a solution has been found and will be implemented in the next release.
In the mean time try use_qpaintenginegl2 = false in the config.ini
I presume this goes in the [video] stanza, and it doesn't fix fonts on my "Mobile Intel(R) GMA 4500MHD" laptop video.
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Old 10-08-2010, 07:03 PM
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I think it can be placed in a number of places but my config.ini has it under [main]

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Old 10-08-2010, 08:40 PM
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Barry, spot on mate thanks found the alternative shortcut and it works, no more fuzzy fonts. Clear and readable now. Thanks very much.
Tried installing in my Virtualbox VM running LinuxMint but its sluggish and slow to respond.
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Old 10-08-2010, 09:45 PM
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Barry, spot on mate thanks found the alternative shortcut and it works, no more fuzzy fonts. Clear and readable now. Thanks very much.
Tried installing in my Virtualbox VM running LinuxMint but its sluggish and slow to respond.
Hi Fahim

sounds like you are missing opengl drivers for the virtual box. Vmware are upgrading all the time. There is a new version out now but I haven't tried it yet.

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I think it can be placed in a number of places but my config.ini has it under [main]

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I just found setting [main] version=0.10.3 works at least as well as [main] use_qpaintenginegl2 = false on two XP boxes - thinkpad laptop and emachines notebook
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Old 11-08-2010, 11:13 PM
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Barry,
Far as i know Virtualbox does have openGL support but I did not have it enabled, will test it again and report back. This might be a feesable option for Laptop users with ATI cards. I have read people have had Quake running in a XP guest with 55fps.

Another query i have is where does Ctrl-S save the screen shots on a Win7 box? I read the manual and I looked under appdata and under program files and could not find it. And its not on the desktop.
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Old 12-08-2010, 10:13 AM
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Hi Fahim

I am using VMware with a virtual XP SP3 virtual system. Windows 7 64bit
I tried Ctrl S with my 0.10.5 (release) and it did not work.
I next compiled the latest source in the virtual box
This time I tried Ctrl S and it placed the printed screen on the virtual desk top.
Speed was OK but I had trouble with menu fonts not showing although others were OK. I haven't solved that yet but I think it will be OK when a new patch being evaluated is installed.

By the way I have no display problems in Windows 7 (X86 mode)

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