Hell no those folks would never own something so crass, those types of cars live by the sea and in the burbs (seen a few DB9's and 360's out sorrento way). No these folks drive sensible cars like a range rover or bentley or lexus (for the kids).
Mark
True, but remember...it's the hoons doing the crassness, not the locals
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I don't know enough people to fill all those seats though Chris.
There's alot to be said for cosiness. A fire place, shag pile rug, candles burning. Very romantic.
I like to have my "things" around me. Not cluttered, but cosy.
It's all personal taste, I know.
I like my manor/estate type house...like an English or French manor. I also don't mind that mediterranean look as well. Can't abide by most houses these days, they're like living in little butter boxes. Bedrooms you can't even swing a microbe around in. Then they squeeze the houses onto ridiculously small building blocks (which is dangerous). Another thing which doesn't impress me is this "modern" look of housing design. The houses look more like office blocks or surgeries than houses. Just looks too sterile and clinical. Don't like this minimalist look, never have.
Anyway, about this house...it's small bickies. Probably only about 12000-15000sqft in size. Over priced too for that size. Also, all this talk by some about the price being immoral and what about the poor. Complete nonsense. Yes, there are many around who have hit bad circumstance and do need our help, but a great many more are only in their situation because of their own stupidity. I know quite a few who are poor and homeless just because they gamble or drink their way to that state. Families being let down by a moron who can't control themselves. Sounds like rough justice, but they need a good swift kick in the backside and smack in the head to wake them up. If someone has the money to afford a place like this, then good on them. They've been smart enough to actually do the hard work to get to where they are and they deserve what they get. Yeah, some might turn out to be rogues. But some don't and they have every right to enjoy the fruits of their money. What's immoral, is when people get to become wealthy by ill gotten means. What's immoral is when these homeless and poor who are in that condition through their own fault expect everyone else to owe them a living and wait on handouts which they then squander all over again. Take from everyone, but then take no responsibility for their own lives and those they affect.
Enough of that doom and gloom...think that house is ostentatious, how about this. Updown Court, in Surrey. 56000sqft, 103 rooms, $138million
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That ship, Malcolm - couldn't be uglier if you tried. As they said, it is just like a boxy Hyat hotel that floats. As they also say, it is a dinosaur and it has only just started its maiden voyage. Ordered in the height of the crazy boom in 2006.
Hope there are no icebergs in the Atlantic. If there are 8000 people on board, and each lifeboat takes 30 people, thats 267 lifeboats......
Could be going cheap soon..
thread topic house looks like a great big wedding cake, even has icing colour, and i see so many of them around, dunno if its the columns? hmmm
and yes you definitely cant buy taste, i have watched many eps grand designs over years, does make me feel better sometimes
renormalised, erm chronic diseases ( even hard work related gawd forbid) majority of homeless ppl have mental illness's but dont worry greed is good, or betterer, GFC was only a stumble/blip, bernie madoff was a good bloke so was bondy, they been framed! by poor people, those ungrateful swines, politics of envy, sounds like gollum preciooous, let them eat cake (like houses)
sigh, its true this planet is stuffed for sure, how much CO2 does it take to make some of these homes?
..renormalised, erm chronic diseases ( even hard work related gawd forbid) majority of homeless ppl have mental illness's but dont worry greed is good, or betterer, GFC was only a stumble/blip, bernie madoff was a good bloke so was bondy, they been framed! by poor people, those ungrateful swines, politics of envy, sounds like gollum preciooous, let them eat cake (like houses)
sigh, its true this planet is stuffed for sure, how much CO2 does it take to make some of these homes?
Oh come on!!!. Go and re-read what I wrote, please!!!
Catergorising the majority of homeless people having mental illness is a load of twaddle. Many do, yes, and it's understandable...some had it beforehand, others developed it, but a hell of a lot don't. Lumping them all into a category like "mental illness" is a salve for those who would rather see them as being different and that's why they're in the state they are. Anyone of us could end up like that, true, and heaven forbid we do (I've nearly been at that stage a couple of times), but that doesn't mean we should let ourselves go and just bemoan our lot in life. Many of these people are getting pensions and such, but they squander their money. Gambling and heavy drinking etc, is an addiction just like any other, but it's not necessarily a mental illness. It can and does contribute to them developing one in many cases, but it's not one per se. Hell, if they were mental illnesses, most Australians would be mentally ill!!.
Taking your line of reasoning to it's end, why don't we all go live in lean-to's and tents...or build ourselves log cabins....but only small ones, just enough to squeeze into and that's that. If you begrudge someone with money buying a place like that (quite frankly, all this talk is nothing more than closet envy...people won't admit it but they'd like a slice of the money too), then I hope when you win a big lotto prize, you donate all the proceedings to charity and the poor.
Charity begins at home...never truer a saying than that. You can't help someone out if you're in the muck yourself. Look after you own backyard first, then you can start to think about looking after others.
Mr Ellison may have bad taste (I don't particularly like the home's style, either), but you have no idea of anything he may do for charity...and it's most likely you won't because those people who are decent enough don't go advertising what they do. They just do it. They're not out to be "famous" or get noticed. They're not out to rip off people (like Madoff). They care enough to do what's right, but they're not excessive, attention seeking, or stupid about it.
Funny thing, if it wasn't for many of these "crass and immoral" people, you'd be out of a job and (maybe) on the street. Think about that next time you have a go at them.
Oh come on!!!. Go and re-read what I wrote, please!!!
Catergorising the majority of homeless people having mental illness is a load of twaddle. Many do, yes, and it's understandable...some had it beforehand, others developed it, but a hell of a lot don't. Lumping them all into a category like "mental illness" is a salve for those who would rather see them as being different and that's why they're in the state they are.
you have already established they are different with names like 'homeless' 'moron who can't control themselves'. implying as lazy drunkards, so which is it, majority of visibly homeless, are problem free? or minority?
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, if they were mental illnesses, most Australians would be mentally ill!!.
i keep reading statistics that 1 in 3 and/or 1 in 5 australians will suffer mental illness in their lifetime, that seems pretty high, no?
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if it wasn't for many of these "crass and immoral" people, you'd be out of a job and (maybe) on the street. Think about that next time you have a go at them.
if it wasnt for the 'poor people' buying their products, working in their business's or their customers customers at least, they wouldnt have a business either! and if it wasnt for the planets natural resources, which is a moot who actually owns that, individuals or countries/society, they again wouldnt have a business or a job either remember, 'all property is theft'
you have already established they are different with names like 'homeless' 'moron who can't control themselves'. implying as lazy drunkards, so which is it, majority of visibly homeless, are problem free? or minority?
Maybe I didn't make myself clear enough in the post. What I was saying is that many of those people who end up in a homeless state get there because they can't or won't accept responsibility for their own condition. That's not to say that a great many are there because of circumstances beyond their control. That's a fact. They're the ones that truly need our help and support. But quite a few people get themselves into a position where they find themselves caught in this state of existence, through their own stupidity and inaction to deal with problems they have. They'd rather run away from life than face it. Having problems with an addiction or whatever, being they're self inflicted, is no need to become homeless or poor. You only end up like that if you allow the addiction or whatever to take over. Those people need help, but they still need a kick in the rear end and have to face their lives for what they are. If after helping them out, they still continue down a self destructive path, then there's nothing you can do about it, and bemoaning some rich person buying a house for whatever amount of money isn't going to make things better. Obscene or not, it's their money and they can do with it what they like.
Putting it closer to home....people here spend thousands of dollars on telescopes and other equipment, sometimes yearly. What a waste of money...should be donated to charities looking after people less fortunate than ourselves.
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i keep reading statistics that 1 in 3 and/or 1 in 5 australians will suffer mental illness in their lifetime, that seems pretty high, no?
What of it. Doesn't mean we're all going to be homeless, or that every homeless person has mental illness. Many do....many don't.
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if it wasnt for the 'poor people' buying their products, working in their business's or their customers customers at least, they wouldnt have a business either! and if it wasnt for the planets natural resources, which is a moot who actually owns that, individuals or countries/society, they again wouldnt have a business or a job either remember, 'all property is theft'
Now, we're being really facetious...this is getting silly. I'm trying to put across a fair argument and all I get back is circular arguments that devolve into silly comments.
Honestly, if anyone here finds that when someone who's worked for the wealth, instead of inheriting it or ripping people off, is somehow "immoral" just because they bought a house, then they should look closely at themselves. Quite frankly, it's the pot calling the kettle black in so far as expenditure goes. They can afford to buy their home, you go and put yourself into debt for 20-30 years in the hope of eventually paying it off. Then if, as in many cases, you can't pay it off because all you're doing is paying off interest and not the principle, and you lose the home, what do you say to your families then. When you just lost their roof over their heads.
What's more immoral, risking your family's security by buying into something you can't really afford, or having the money to just go and buy it because you've worked damn hard for it and managed to get lucky.
is this thread really the place for your rant Carl? i thought it was about bad taste?, ah well, i'm done, have fun
Whether it's a rant or not, these comments about how crass and expensive this house is, or that someone actually paid for it, is just unfair on the person who bought it. Whether it's in bad taste or not, is irrelevant. They like it and that's all that matters. It's their money, and they can do what they like with it.
I'm quite sure that most of us here don't exactly have that good a taste in a great many things, either. But if you like what you have, that's all that matters. It's your money, do with it what you like.
That pool looks good.
