maxim dl 5

[marki]

Originally Posted by AlexN

Mark, I just got Maxim controlling my focuser tonight! Clouds ruined the fun before it even got started...

The auto focus is a little tricky to get working properly, I could never get it going with the JMI smartfocus but it does work a treat with the moonlite on a night with steady seeing. Are you using temp compensation?

Mark

[AlexN]

Nope, no temperature compensation here.. Its just the JMI worked well... but by the time it was focused and I slewed to the target, the clouds rolled in...

[dpastern (Dave Pastern)]

The reason why I say this is because I have one licence. So, it's either the laptop or the desktop PC. The desktop PC is far more powerful, and since MaximDL will be used for processing images, it makes sense to put MaximDL on that. I can't justify buying it twice so I can have it on both the laptop and desktop.

Dave

laptop: Intel dual core 2ghz and 2GB RAM, 32 bit o/s, 5200 rpm hdd, vs Intel quadcore 2.4ghz, 8GB ram, x64 bit o/s and SATA 300 hdd...you do the maths

[AlexN]

I have one licence.. Preeeetty sure its installed on both my computers... Seems to work fine..

[troypiggo (Troy)]

Yeah, Dave. I've bought a few programs now like Nebulosity, K3CCDTools, Astroplanner. Even though you only have one licence, they all allow you to install it on several computers of your own. Think they realise the notebook you use in the field will be different to the one you use to do the heavy lifting and image processing. Contact the authors to find out. You don't want to spend all that money on a software package like that and miss out on all the tools it provides for "in the field".

[marki]

Originally Posted by AlexN

I have one licence.. Preeeetty sure its installed on both my computers... Seems to work fine..

Me too

Mark

[dpastern (Dave Pastern)]

Well, I might just contact them and see what they say. Thanks guys.

Dave

[dpastern (Dave Pastern)]

Well, viewing the help online, it says:

PRODUCT LICENSE
This Product is licensed, not sold. The Product is the property of Diffraction Limited or its licensers and is protected by copyright law. This Agreement grants you the following rights:
1. You may install and use one copy of the Product on a single computer;
2. You may make one copy of the Product for archival purposes;
3. You may use the Product on a network provided that you have a licensed copy of the Product for each computer that can access the Product over that network;
4. You may permanently transfer the Product and all of your rights under this license on a permanent basis to another person or entity, provided that you retain no copies of the Product, that you transfer all of the product including any components, updates, media, and manuals, that you provide Diffraction Limited with the name, company, and address of the person to whom you are transferring the rights granted herein, and the recipient agrees in writing to all terms of this Agreement. Please note that technical support and upgrades are available only to the original customer.

So, I guess no is the answer...I'll EMail them anyways, but I think they'll tell me that I'll have to purchase another copy (which is really silly to be honest).

Dave

[dpastern (Dave Pastern)]

In light of what I'm seeing, I contact Cyanogen and submitted a ticket. This is what I said (perhaps a bit blunt, but that's me lol):

Just a question (and I'm pretty sure that I know the answer) - a few people taht I know have suggested using MaximDL for guiding. This poses an issue, since I'll be using a laptop for guiding, and intend to use MaximDL on my main PC for post processing etc, i.e different computers. As far as I understand it, the licence only allows me to install on one computer, which means either I choose the laptop or my desktop. In this case, the desktop wins out, since it's a far more powerful system. It sort of defeats the purpose of having Maxim being able to guide imho, since I'm not dragging the main desktop PC out onto the field. Any suggestions? I presume you're going to say that I'd have to buy another copy of the software...not entirely satisfactory. I also use Phase One's Capture One pro and they have a very nice licence agreement that allows you to use said software on 2 computers (2 x PC, 1 x PC, 1 x Mac etc). Your software isn't cheap, and for the price, one would reasonably expect a bit of leeway in situations like this, especially when one's been honest and purchased the software instead of pirating, etc.

Looking forward to your response.

Dave

Dave

[Geoff45 (Geoff)]

When I bought Maxim a few weeks ago, I had some trouble with it on my desktop. I emailed the Maxim support and said something like
"I have Maxim on my laptop and desktop. It works fine on my laptop but on my desktop I have the following problem..." They emailed back with helpful suggestions and made no mention of the double installation, so maybe they are just being ultralegalistic in their licensing blurb.

It certainly works on both computers

BTW the problem was due to something stupid on my part.
Geoff.

[marki]

Dave, when I originally bought the program as version 4 I seem to remember the EULA stating the program could be installed on one laptop and one PC. I did notice the difference in the EULA when I upgraded to version 5 (in the free upgrade time allowed from initial purchase). But hey I am running an upgraded version 4 maxim DL not a brand spanking version 5 package even though it appears to be exactly the same .

Mark

[dpastern (Dave Pastern)]

Well, that gives me some hope...*fingers crossed*

Dave

[Geoff45 (Geoff)]

Here's the word from the man himself, Doug George (copied from the Maxim Yahoo! Group website)

"We don't mind you installing it on two computers -- one for field use and one
for processing -- as long as you are using it on a single computer at a time.

On the other hand, if you had two separate telescopes that you were using
simultaneously, then you would need two copies of the software to run them both.

Doug"

Here's the link for those who are members of the group
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/M.../message/36083

Geoff

Note added. I did a quick search on the Yahoo! site. The question keeps coming up, so I don't know why they don't put it in the license agreement. The oft repeated answer from Doug George is that you can install on two computers, but only if you faithfully promise never to run it on more than one computer at a time.

[dpastern (Dave Pastern)]

Cool, thanks. I'll see what they say and then respond with that link if they say I can't. I don't expect any problems. I have no interest in cheating them of a licence - if I was using it on both computers simultaneously, then I could understand, but I'd be only using it on one when out in the field, and the other when at home processing.

Dave

[marki]

I thought it was something like that Dave. I have had it on both for years. I am pretty sure it was in the Eula for version 4, not sure why they removed it for ver 5.


Mark

[dpastern (Dave Pastern)]

Well, I'll wait and see what Cyanogen says! I'll let you guys know.

Dave

[dpastern (Dave Pastern)]

Got my reply from Cyanogen this morning, and you guys were all on the money:

Dear David Pastern,

This is in reference with your Request Ticket Number: SA00000428.

Regarding your question about using the software on more than one computer, as long as you are using it only on one computer at a time, we don't have a problem with using separate computers for imaging and processing.

If you have further questions, please contact us again and we would be happy to help.

Sincerely,
xxxxxxxxxxx

Diffraction Ltd.

Out of respect for the person who sent me the EMail, I xxxxx'd out their name ;-)

Woohoo!

Dave

[AlexN]

Lucky for that.. I'd hate to think that I was a Pirate by having it on my desktop and notebook! Yarrrgh!!

[dpastern (Dave Pastern)]

Originally Posted by AlexN

Lucky for that.. I'd hate to think that I was a Pirate by having it on my desktop and notebook! Yarrrgh!!

arrr m'laddy, tis a reason to drink!

Dave

[AlexN]

You need a reason to drink me'hearty? Yaarrrghh!