Daylight Saving Time

[Spanrz (Brett)]

Originally Posted by Gerald Sargent

Daylight saving in Queensland

Wishe we had it here

Originally Posted by thunderchildobs

Daylight saving in Queensland

Glad we dont have it here

Both from QLD, hahaha, don't ya love polls!

I'm a Victorian and wouldn't want it any other way. If I lived in QLD, I'd still want it.
In my job, the +1 is very beneficial as it sometimes very hard to fix tractors in the dark.

[norm]

Bring on more DST. I like getting home when there is still light!!!

[Geoff45 (Geoff)]

Originally Posted by marki

Yes I know, that is what I was trying to remember. I forgot all about Dowding, pretty forgetable premier .

Cheers Mark

Who?

[Analog6 (Odille)]

I'm a morning person - I loathe and detest DST. I hate having my early morning cool walk time stoiledn by DST.

And because we are just a few kms south of the Qld border and the house faces North with a hill behind it, we can only get Qld TV. So it is all an hour LATER! Grr. News is at 7pm, not 6pm.

And the extra daylight in the afternoon DOES increase energy usage as people are home earlier and turn on their air-cons to cool their houses. And they are up 'later' so miss the opportunity to open up and let early morning cool air come into the house, and tend to turn the a-c on in the mornings towards the middle of summer.

MY partner works from 2am-11am, so we go to bed early and it is still light and hot, makes it very hard for him to get a good night's sleep. Why can't we follow the natural flow of the seasons as nature intended? Why must we be ruled by the clock? Surely if people get to work and work with in a certain set hours limit - say between 8am and 6pm anbd work their required hours, then commerce will not suffer.

I'd far rather go back to no DST at all, Australia wide.

[Enchilada]

OK for those Queenslanders suffering ASI* Here is another idea.
As amateur astronomers shouldn't we be advocating of NST (Nighttime Saving Time)! In summer, we change by -1 hour, making sunset around 6pm and darkness starting by about 7.15 - 7.30pm. This would make observing for more convenient time, give an extra two hours of observing before bedtime. Better still, those closer to the equator will benefit the most!

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* ASI - Applied Sardonic Incredulity

[RuthC (Ruth)]

Originally Posted by Analog6

I'm a morning person - I loathe and detest DST. I hate having my early morning cool walk time stoiledn by DST.

Agreed.
Good to see more people can see the light and standup and say so.

[bluescope]

Daylight saving upsets the natural rythms of the body and can cause health problems according to a study in Europe .... I can't recall which country because I am currently suffering from the end of daylight saving syndrome.

I see no advantage to the sun ( seemingly ) staying in the sky later in the summer as it gets bloody hot here and I want it to start cooling down sooner than later thank you very much. As for astrophotography it sucks not achieving true darkness 'till around 10pm.

Big business are the ones who want it across the whole of Australia as is evidenced by a group of large company business people in Western Australia who are embarking on a 6 week program in WA to convince people to vote for DST ... what more can I say.

Bring on the referendum in May and I hope this time, as in the past, it dies but this time may it die forever. Stop wasting our tax dollars on voting for something that the majority of people have consistently said they do not want.

Now I'm getting off the soap box and getting my NO VOTE registered in the poll.

[[1ponders] (Paul)]

So if 50% of people don't want it and 50% of people do want it (assuming of course this is a random sample that represents a complete cross section of society ...yeah suuure ) then why do we have daylight saving anywhere? There is no majority vote for it anywhere.

See previous post by bluescope

I should start a poll. Is there a conspiracy involving governments and big business pushing the implementation of DLS.


Just joking, just joking!!!

[Enchilada]

Originally Posted by [1ponders]

So if 50% of people don't want it and 50% of people do want it (assuming of course this is a random sample that represents a complete cross section of society ...yeah suuure ) then why do we have daylight saving anywhere? There is no majority vote for it anywhere.

The ACTUAL vote I'd like to see is the number of Queenslanders / Western Australians / the Rest of Us who did place a vote. Methinks almost every Queenslander would have say NO judging by the responses.

[Robh (Rob)]

It's all very clever really. In summer people need their air-conditioning. You start work earlier in the day and work your 8 hours, so government and big business save 1 hour of air-con in the hot afternoon. When you get home, it's hotter for one hour longer so you pay more for aircon. They save money and you pay for it.
Seriously, in Summer we get up to 14 hours of daylight anyway. Why on earth do we need daylight saving! Young kids are deprived of the joys of the night-sky in Summer as they go to bed before the sun sets. If anything, it would be more logical in winter with the shorter 10 hour days.

[Glenhuon (Bill)]

My own feeling is there should be a once and for all NATIONAL plebiscite on DST. All or nothing is the way to go. Some states having it and others not is counter productive. Which ever way it goes should be a binding decision, and we can stop wasting time and money having these votes every few years. ( I reckon the No's would have it)

Bill

[bluescope]

Originally Posted by [1ponders]

So if 50% of people don't want it and 50% of people do want it (assuming of course this is a random sample that represents a complete cross section of society ...yeah suuure ) then why do we have daylight saving anywhere? There is no majority vote for it anywhere.

See previous post by bluescope

I should start a poll. Is there a conspiracy involving governments and big business pushing the implementation of DLS.


Just joking, just joking!!!

Many a true word spoken in jest !

[[1ponders] (Paul)]

[jjjnettie (Jeanette)]

Another NO vote from Queensland

[TJD (Trevor)]

buy the time its dark enough to use my scope it bed time get ridd of day light saving what would make sence is to take it back an hour not forward that ways its dark at the same time for allmost all of the year

[TJD (Trevor)]

get ridd of dst ridd of dst gone with dst finish with delta sarar tango no ofence if some one has a aeroplane and thats there call sign

[[1ponders] (Paul)]

take it back an hour not forward that ways its dark at the same time for allmost all of the year

Now that's a great idea!

[MrB (Simon)]

Originally Posted by bsercombe

Here in Perth, WA it's crap. Not fully dark until 9pm in summer and pitch bloody black as 6am.

Yep, I can't go for my morning surf in summer when DST is here, not enough time to get in a few rides, get back home to shower then head for work..... and then I've got a mean streak a mile wide all day.... grrrrrrr.

Originally Posted by Enchilada

The ACTUAL vote I'd like to see is the number of Queenslanders / Western Australians / the Rest of Us who did place a vote. Methinks almost every Queenslander would have say NO judging by the responses.

I've lost count how many times WA has voted NO.... and now we're going back to vote NO all over again... how many times do we have to vote 'till someone gets it through their thick f'n head?

[TrevorW]

They've got it wrong daylight savings should be in the winter months, it's just as dark getting up in the morning whether you get up an hour earlier or not

[bluescope]

Originally Posted by MrB

I've lost count how many times WA has voted NO.... and now we're going back to vote NO all over again... how many times do we have to vote 'till someone gets it through their thick f'n head?

Big business will keep lobbying until it gets what it wants. I heard on the news yesterday that Colin Barnett is now probably going to extend trading hours 'till 9pm every week night ..... WHY ? ..... because big business wants it so they have more hours in each day to rip us off in their stores and kill off the small business people who can't afford to pay staff 'till 9pm every week night. The enormous growth of Coles Myer and Woolworths during the 11 years of Liberal Federal Government has now left us with a virtual duopoly that we will never get rid of. They rip off the producers and the consumers because they can.

I'm starting a Poll on religion next



p.s. Sorry to get off subject ... my soap box has now been chopped into many pieces