A billion degrees - is HOT

[xelasnave]

No worries Ron and for the record what do I really beieve in.. well the answer seems strange given our little chat but it is....nothing..nothing at all
alex

[DobDobDob (Ron)]

Originally Posted by xelasnave

No worries Ron and for the record what do I really beieve in.. well the answer seems strange given our little chat but it is....nothing..nothing at all
alex

Here is something eerie to ponder, my last post (the one before this one), it was number 666, now I really am starting to worry

If you reply again and it is less than 25 words, I will not reply thereafter, which will make you the winner of the person having the last word

[xelasnave]

The devil you say!
alex

[taminga16 (Greg)]

Alex, who makes your shirts. Greg (Take care)

[xelasnave]

Originally Posted by taminga16

Alex, who makes your shirts. Greg (Take care)

I presume you refer to the one I wear in the post a pic of yourself thread.
I usually wear black shirts, pants socks etc as you can boil the heck out of them and the color does not run. When I took that photo all the black ones were in the wash so that was the only one here I had to wear. That shirt has drawn a comment elsewhere I dont know if it is very good or very bad but who made it I dont know.
alex

[Dujon]

Originally Posted by tailwag

John, lifting cartons is a lesson in biomechanics and physics and one that I would love to observe but not directly participate in. I believe that to be a true observer, one must know where not to step beyond

Ah, the laws of observation are far removed from reality, Ron, much as I wish they were not.

I am an expert supervisor and have been such for much of my life. Unfortunately on the day of arrival of this evil shipment my wife, son, his girlfriend along with other willing souls, were not within a coo-ee of my premises. Damn shame that. Nevertheless, given that I have recently taken up an exercise regime (OK, not a regime, just a bit of heavy walking . . . would you believe a light walk? . . . No? . . . How about a bit of masochistic calf and thigh torture?), I managed to complete the task.

Once I get the body into reasonable condition I shall start on the brain. Does one get headaches from brain training? I rarely suffer from headaches so perhaps that is why.

Oh, yes, I forgot. A billion degrees is hot, but only if you are close to the atoms which are jiggling.

[DobDobDob (Ron)]

Originally Posted by Dujon

Once I get the body into reasonable condition I shall start on the brain.

When you are ready to learn how to think let me know, I did a course on it once and you would be surprised how technically advanced a process it is. Most people never think, not once during the course of the day, they have robotic like responses to certain conditions and go about doing the same old things everyday.

The process of thinking is something you must learn, it is not instinctive. Thinking is an action, a verb, and as such you must actually 'Do' something. Let me know if you are serious and I'll teach you how to think.

[xelasnave]

Ron I would like to learn how to think.. I find myself not thinking and sometimes moving instead..can you help?
alex

[xelasnave]

mmm I think I need help with the moving also.
alex

[DobDobDob (Ron)]

Originally Posted by xelasnave

Ron I would like to learn how to think....can you help?
alex

Okay, seeing you asked so nicely

The first thing you have to realise is that you currently have no formal method of thinking, be honest, what you consider thinking is just a random process that happens, usually instinctively or due to some catalyst.

There is really only one successful way to think and that is of course providing you have something to think about. This is not me being glib, but the first thing you have to do is set yourself a topic to think about.

I will describe for you how I think. Firstly the night before going to sleep, I write down a topic that I want to think about the next day, something important is good

I go to sleep and wake the next morning, and find the quietest place in the house, grab a coffee and make myself comfortable. I then pull out my blank sheet of paper with just the topic for thinking at the top and I start to think about the specific topic. I jot ideas down very quickly as they rush into my fresh mind.

Because I am totally focused, in a quiet room, and very comfortable without any distractions whatsoever, the ideas flood in, so only time to jot the ideas down in point form. After about 5 minutes of this, I then go back over the list and start to group the ideas, then I prioritise the ideas.

After I have the list of ideas about the topic I am thinking of, I then go over every idea from top to bottom in the list and make additional notes as I think about each item in turn, this spurns a new level of thinking and a few new ideas.

The whole session last between 20 to 30 minutes, and is solid thinking. As I mentioned earlier, thinking is a verb, so you need to do something, you need to be structured and comfortable and prepared and you need to follow through.

I tried this for several years when working my way through Swinburne and it helped me pass all my assignments. I learned how to think, and it does work. I challenge you to try it and be honest and earnest and give it a try, you will be amazed at what you can accomplish in a short time. By the end of the coffee, you have a manuscript that is more than just random thought, you have a working draft of your idea and from there you can put the idea into action.

As I have written in my Logo, I try to think everyday. Using my definition of thinking, it is hard to do if you are not a structured person, but if you want something bad enough you can train yourself, I did it and trust me I am seriously not that bright

Good luck, try to think tomorrow. Btw, I chose the morning whilst the house was quiet, it suited me best then, others may be better at different times. The important thing is to give yourself a chance.

[xelasnave]

Ron thank you for taking your time to share your method of “how to think” .

You have addressed the most important aspect I feel in so far as you allocate specific time to the activity .
I believe many people think they think but I suspect it is a casual approach and time is not allocated but thoughts are dealt with “when they pop in” whilst engaged in other activity.
Being confronted with the "white board" in a group discussion may be the closest some come to this wonderful experience .
Given the fact that human existence is full of activity and “dead line” situations the time available for thought can be minimal, the pattern of thought somewhat random, unrecorded and unprepared with unrecorded goals and objectives.
I can see your method addresses these issues and so will place one in a state where the matter being thought upon is given the time and room that will allow a productive result . I like your approach and can relate to the method for I follow a similar method .

I also like your “I try to think once a day” tag my only observation is I dislike the word “try” as it implies the possibility of failure generally .

If we make a statement of intention qualified by the word “try” the word provides the sub conscious mind with an excuse not to “win”.
I avoid its use as a very conscious effort when managing any task .

I was impressed by Sir Isaac Newton’s, observed as strange, propensity to stop where a thought occurred to him and drop all other things to think upon whatever had occurred to him until his thoughts had pursued the thought,... no doubt as fully as it could be with no time limit set upon the process .

I would like to share your method with my Son if I may as better progress is made when you point to another using a sensible approach than if one points to oneself and offer that as authority .
Again I thank you for taking the time to share your method .
Alex

[Dujon]

Originally Posted by tailwag

. . . Most people never think, not once during the course of the day . . .

No, tailwag, you are wrong. I think many times a day, although I grant you that I don't always write down my mental notes. My problem is that I've been taught to 'think outside the square'. This possibly explains why my thoughts generally tend to 'go around in circles'.

[xelasnave]

Originally Posted by Dujon

No, tailwag, you are wrong. I think many times a day, although I grant you that I don't always write down my mental notes. My problem is that I've been taught to 'think outside the square'. This possibly explains why my thoughts generally tend to 'go around in circles'.

But John Ron said most people and although a generalisation I doubt if he was thinking of you John .. Your engagement in this thread alone shows you indeed think .
I post this simply because I notice when ever one says another is wrong the matter goes down hill from there and as Ron is a man who would not take offence and as you are a man who would not take offence I can raise this observation I have only recently made .
I like being told I am wrong however and often invite the opportunity mainly to test the water I find myself swimming in at the time .
However not all humans approach matters this way so I avoid making the statement that one is wrong.... mind you I could be wrong here .
mmmm I am going off in a quiet room and think about all of this.
alex

[DobDobDob (Ron)]

....anyway, I still think "a billion degrees is hot"....

[xelasnave]

Hey are you hyjacking this thread and besides you got me round to thinking fast not hot
alex

[DobDobDob (Ron)]

Originally Posted by xelasnave

Hey are you hyjacking this thread and besides you got me round to thinking fast not hot
alex

I believe that is a more appropriate way to understand the phenomena

[xelasnave]

I agree Ron
alex

[DobDobDob (Ron)]

Originally Posted by xelasnave

I agree Ron
alex

Stop agreeing with me Alex, it will start tongues wagging

[huckabuck]

this thread has raised a question to me.

what ever started our universe(big bang, gravity rain,supreme being, or whatever), could it not have happened more than once????

could our universe, as vast as it seems to us, be just a miniscule part of many other universe's???

[xelasnave]

Originally Posted by huckabuck

this thread has raised a question to me.

what ever started our universe(big bang, gravity rain,supreme being, or whatever), could it not have happened more than once????

could our universe, as vast as it seems to us, be just a miniscule part of many other universe's???

Quantum fluctuations in the gravity rain blowing thru a window of time coming from the Universe next door ...believe me it was I who forgot to close the window and have been sent to explain the mess to all life forms in the Universe before cleaner arrives to mop it up .
Good questions but you know Ron he will accuse us of hyjacking his thread but starting a new one to consider such questions would be neat .
alex