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09-03-2020, 01:35 AM
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Has the human race gone mad, whilst I am not saying use grass or leaves, who in their right mind buys six months of toilet rolls, supermarkets here are "discussing" limiting customers to just 10 tins of beans ? 5 cartons of long life milk, who wants 50 cans of beans ?
In fact it would do US good to realize just how starving people DO live and have to in life 365 days a year.
https://www.mintpressnews.com/corona...amazon/265258/
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09-03-2020, 08:13 AM
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YOU get it Jeremy, try explaining simply reality to those here who have completely swallowed the main stream media's panic mongering. Add in to that a dose of Aussie Karen factor (Karen is a female bogan, and a bogan is a numpty  ) and you have the Great Australian Idiot Panic Streak of 2020.
At least it has made many more aware Australia now imports just about everything. Yay us...totally sovereign and self-sufficient...NOT.
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09-03-2020, 08:40 AM
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Originally Posted by DarkArts
Sure, but that medical science hasn't found a cure and will take 12-18 months to deliver a vaccine.
Until then, practice excellent hygiene, observe good social distancing and obey quarantine instructions ... for which one needs to be reasonably prepared ... not ridiculously over-prepared (people with 6 months supply of toilet rolls) or not at all (idiots that go shopping after testing positive).
Medical science has improved exponentially but, alas, common sense seems to have gone backwards.
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Unfortunately, medical science has yet to cure a virus. Immunise against, yes, but cure, no. (and eradicate, but not yet cure) Treat the resulting symptoms is the only approach at the moments, then find immunogens to work up to an vaccine.
Take HIV for example - no cure, and with the rapid rate of mutation (within months), patients require a large cocktail of drugs to help combat the ailments caused by and the weaknesses in the immunity caused by the virus.
A virus is NOT a living thing - it is merely a capsule (termed a capsid) of RNA and DNA plus other biochemicals bound in a protein shell. It is literally incapable of reproducing itself outside of a mitochondrial cell, and hijacks the cell into splicing in it's own gene markers to reproduce itself (mutated from the parent and the host). As Jeremy pointed out a few post backs, you can't "kill" a virus, but you can causes it's lysis through strong alcohols and certain other disinfectant solutions (bleach, alcohol, peroxides and so on). Anti-bacterial wipes - which Woolworths Majura is sold out of lol - are completely ineffective, as are many of the "disinfectant" wipes, being insufficiently concentrated (sufficient concentration causes issues in humans). This is why virii are so difficult to do anything with - typically what "kills" a virus, kills the host when applied in the macrocosm.
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09-03-2020, 08:06 PM
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Originally Posted by LewisM
YOU get it Jeremy, try explaining simply reality to those here who have completely swallowed the main stream media's panic mongering. Add in to that a dose of Aussie Karen factor (Karen is a female bogan, and a bogan is a numpty  ) and you have the Great Australian Idiot Panic Streak of 2020.
At least it has made many more aware Australia now imports just about everything. Yay us...totally sovereign and self-sufficient...NOT.
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The UK is worse then any, believe me, and it is daily life now they are saying people are googling CV and believing the crap they are being told by bogus sites are they are they complete MORONS.
40-50 years ago people had to be told to cancel the papers and milk when going on holiday, NPW they have to be told don't give your holiday away on social media as you may be broken in to when away DUH.................
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09-03-2020, 08:06 PM
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Originally Posted by lewism
unfortunately, medical science has yet to cure a virus. Immunise against, yes, but cure, no. (and eradicate, but not yet cure) treat the resulting symptoms is the only approach at the moments, then find immunogens to work up to an vaccine.
Take hiv for example - no cure, and with the rapid rate of mutation (within months), patients require a large cocktail of drugs to help combat the ailments caused by and the weaknesses in the immunity caused by the virus.
A virus is not a living thing - it is merely a capsule (termed a capsid) of rna and dna plus other biochemicals bound in a protein shell. It is literally incapable of reproducing itself outside of a mitochondrial cell, and hijacks the cell into splicing in it's own gene markers to reproduce itself (mutated from the parent and the host). As jeremy pointed out a few post backs, you can't "kill" a virus, but you can causes it's lysis through strong alcohols and certain other disinfectant solutions (bleach, alcohol, peroxides and so on). Anti-bacterial wipes - which woolworths majura is sold out of lol - are completely ineffective, as are many of the "disinfectant" wipes, being insufficiently concentrated (sufficient concentration causes issues in humans). This is why virii are so difficult to do anything with - typically what "kills" a virus, kills the host when applied in the macrocosm.
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09-03-2020, 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted by LewisM
Add in to that a dose of Aussie Karen factor (Karen is a female bogan, and a bogan is a numpty  )
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Oi... my wife's name is Karen... I think you mean Shazza, surely??....
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09-03-2020, 09:10 PM
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10-03-2020, 02:34 AM
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Just been reported people are panic buying PET food, bet most forgot about that.
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10-03-2020, 02:36 PM
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Big panic buys here beside bog roll is Italian produce - canned tomatoes etc.
Watch Mike storm every shop in Canberra getting his Roma tomatoes and pasta...
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10-03-2020, 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted by LewisM
Big panic buys here beside bog roll is Italian produce - canned tomatoes etc.
Watch Mike storm every shop in Canberra getting his Roma tomatoes and pasta... 
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Ha ha ha  ...Not that it was rocket science but It was pretty predictable which food items would start to run short on the shelves...deep down everyone has a little preper in them
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10-03-2020, 08:09 PM
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"Unfortunately, medical science has yet to cure a virus. Immunise against, yes, but cure, no. (and eradicate, but not yet cure) Treat the resulting symptoms is the only approach at the moments, then find immunogens to work up to an vaccine."
Sorry Lewis but certain genomes of Hep C can be cured - one of the best anti- viral advances in recent years....
What are genotypes and do they matter?
Six different genotypes of hepatitis C have been identified. Genotypes 1 and 3 are the most common causes of hepatitis C in Australia and make up 90 per cent of all cases. They are important because they help determine the treatment you need. Unlike in the past, however, your genotype is not important in terms of the chance of cure. With the treatment drugs, all six genotypes have a very high chance of cure.
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10-03-2020, 09:11 PM
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Originally Posted by graham.hobart
"Unfortunately, medical science has yet to cure a virus. Immunise against, yes, but cure, no. (and eradicate, but not yet cure) Treat the resulting symptoms is the only approach at the moments, then find immunogens to work up to an vaccine."
Sorry Lewis but certain genomes of Hep C can be cured - one of the best anti- viral advances in recent years....
What are genotypes and do they matter?
Six different genotypes of hepatitis C have been identified. Genotypes 1 and 3 are the most common causes of hepatitis C in Australia and make up 90 per cent of all cases. They are important because they help determine the treatment you need. Unlike in the past, however, your genotype is not important in terms of the chance of cure. With the treatment drugs, all six genotypes have a very high chance of cure.
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Yes indeed Graham - I was just reading about sofosbuvir last night. It's a fantastic leap forward.
Seems also that chloroquine is helping quite significantly with COVID-19, amongst many other viral infections. I'll keep drinking my daily tonic water - the quinine in it is a very close relative to chlorquine - even if it is in small concentration
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10-03-2020, 10:41 PM
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"Seems also that chloroquine is helping quite significantly with COVID-19, amongst many other viral infections. I'll keep drinking my daily tonic water - the quinine in it is a very close relative to chlorquine - even if it is in small concentration "
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I will drink to that!!
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11-03-2020, 01:55 AM
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Originally Posted by LewisM
Yes indeed Graham - I was just reading about sofosbuvir last night. It's a fantastic leap forward.
Seems also that chloroquine is helping quite significantly with COVID-19, amongst many other viral infections. I'll keep drinking my daily tonic water - the quinine in it is a very close relative to chlorquine - even if it is in small concentration 
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Tonic Water is excellent for night leg cramps, only thing that works for my cramped calves in early hours of the morning
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11-03-2020, 03:56 AM
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11-03-2020, 09:31 AM
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Originally Posted by LewisM
Seems also that chloroquine is helping quite significantly with COVID-19, amongst many other viral infections.
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Given that chloroquine (Plaquenil) is a commonly used drug, it should be fairly easy to collect data on covid-19 patients to see if there's a statistically significant difference in outcomes.
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11-03-2020, 12:30 PM
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Tonic Water is excellent for night leg cramps, only thing that works for my cramped calves in early hours of the morning
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Indeed Peter - it sure helps with my RLS. I went off the full-time drug regime many years ago (I take ZERO prescriptions meds), as I found tonic water (Schweppes) does the job just as well, at a fraction of the cost. The minor ear ringing side effect of quinine I can live with.
My RLS used to drive my wife nuts at night - and then me as she'd kick me awake
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11-03-2020, 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by casstony
Given that chloroquine (Plaquenil) is a commonly used drug, it should be fairly easy to collect data on covid-19 patients to see if there's a statistically significant difference in outcomes.
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It made a statistically significant difference in SARS cases, and thus far is showing similarly with COVID-19.
Drink tonic water people
On a serious note, maybe people have figured it out already - tonic water stocks are VERY low at my local Woolworths (along with essentially NIL pasta as I predicted)
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11-03-2020, 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by LewisM
It made a statistically significant difference in SARS cases, and thus far is showing similarly with COVID-19.
Drink tonic water people
On a serious note, maybe people have figured it out already - tonic water stocks are VERY low at my local Woolworths (along with essentially NIL pasta as I predicted)
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Does the mandatory additive also assist in a significant way or just help improve the taste?
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11-03-2020, 08:23 PM
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I bought some tonic water. Happily there was some left. I took the opportunity to tell the check out girl it was the only protection available...let's see how that goes down...will there be any left to morrow.
The shopping centre is in a well to do suburb and I heard three different guys talking about shares and their statagy... full on..very worrying...it's not eaves dropping just listening to other folk talking on their phone...bit shares are down I have lost two planewave scopes I figure...but why worry the game is from what I hear is if you live you win. No toilet paper still. People are buying it because it's going to be worth more than share script.
Alec
My view...certain folk are promoting the fear to drive the markets down so they can buy cheap.
Where does the fear come from ..I say the media... who controls the media?.. their advertiser's is who...buy when there is blood in the streets..right let the blood flow.
How? Fear is how.
Alex
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