Cloning my Hard Drive - Page 3

multiweb (Marc) · #41 19-10-2016, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by silv

With the rather special astro software you are running on your PC, it might come in handy to be using a cloning software others use as well.

The programs installed on the drive are irrelevant. An image is just that. Not file related. It can also be a totally different operating system.

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Originally Posted by silv

The docking station is a nice touch, btw. If you ever want to keep the clone off site, the docking station makes it easy grab-n-go.
If you still have space in your PC you could also just put the additional drive in there.

The docking station is a must. That's the only way to restore a blank drive in the PC. Putting a back up drive inside a PC defeats the purpose of having a back up as the drive will be powered everytime the machine is turned on. The purpose of a back up is to be stored off site so you've got it when you need it.

leon · #42 19-10-2016, 01:17 PM

Marc, what would i do without your advice.

Thank you.

Leon

leon · #43 19-10-2016, 01:25 PM

Annette, I did quickly go through these responses to my question and I have to admit I did by pass your response so that I could get to the last answer for my inquire.

However i did go back and saw your response and i have to admit you make sense

in regard to choosing something that some hear on IIS can help with if it all goes wrong.

Thank you, I will be taking your advice and go with Acronis.

Thanks Heaps.

Leon

leon · #44 19-10-2016, 03:54 PM

Annette, well i did bugger that up

and was coxed into Paragon by a not named party.

Well, i should have listened,

i tried Paragon and am now stuck with no program at all and $70.00 out of pocket.

See i just should have listened to you.

Leon

multiweb (Marc) · #45 19-10-2016, 07:25 PM

www.acronis.com/en-au/

silv (Annette) · #46 19-10-2016, 08:43 PM

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i tried Paragon and am now stuck with no program at all and $70.00 out of pocket.

what do you mean by this, Leon?

silv (Annette) · #47 19-10-2016, 08:46 PM

Marc, just for my sake:

I had understood you also can use the Acronis clone seed to do incremental backups. Plus it'll allow you to rollback not only to the latest seed+backup but also to the seed+backup of, let's say, 1 month ago. (as long as there's backup space on the hard drive.. I assume there's a culling mechanism built in which deletes incremental backups older than x?)

?

(Reasoning:
If you restore from a pure clone, the installed software is meaningless, I agree, of course.
If however, you have a "real" backup which can be used as a backup = restoring only parts of it - then the installed software is affected.
A true backup enables you to do that. Hence you might find yourself in a situation where you want to do just that.

Restoring from a not-pure clone+backup can potentially impact program files. Especially if you decide not to restore the full thing, but only a part - like the user folder or something. Or you decide to only restore the system folder. Or or or or or or.
That's the lane I was thinking along when I wrote that astro software might be special when using a clone/backup software.)

leon · #48 19-10-2016, 09:33 PM

Annette, I did some research and i found that Paragon was a good cloning tool.
However after paying my money and downloading the software it told me after accepting this that it was not comparable with my OS system.

So as we speak, I paid for software, it did not arrive on my PC and basically that is it.

I have sent emails to this company and have to admit they have answered

Leon

silv (Annette) · #49 19-10-2016, 10:05 PM

really? that's what you said?

I actually find the email text quite clear:
they ask for a screenshot of the DOwNLOAD attempt so they get the error message word-for-word and hopefully fix it on the back end.

because: the webserver probably should have seen your OS version and at least tried to "lure" you to the correct version -
either when purchasing it or when downloading it.

So the error message from the DOWNLOAD screenshot would be crucial to them to verify that
a) their server is performing as it should
or
b) their server needs improvement so that Leon from Australia can not make a mistake when purchasing/downloading the software for his particular OS.

...

And of course they need to know that you actually purchased the item in order to reimburse you. So the purchase confirmation is the first thing they ask for.

But the second thing they ask for is a screenshot of the technical error that you encountered, do you understand?

silv (Annette) · #50 19-10-2016, 10:07 PM

But I can understand your reaction and emotionally blurred perception - because I know how much time and energy you already put into the whole PC-failing event.

Breathe, Leon

silv (Annette) · #51 19-10-2016, 10:15 PM

I am surprised, if I might add...
you come across as such a friendly and polite guy here on the forums.

But when a stranger and non-native speaker is communicating with you to solve a problem you both have - you get really rude...

I'm sorry to mention this... but it really sticks out and I wanted to make sure you see it through my eyes, too.
If you were treating me that way when I try to help I would turn around and never help again.

Edit: in fact, I am now tempted to do just that... out of loyalty to the fellow support person named Nasyp.

leon · #52 20-10-2016, 07:34 AM

Annette you are correct I was rude, and i will apoligise to this fellow and anyone else that i may have offended.
I did get angry over this situation and should have had more control over the situation.
I understand if you and others on IIS back away from this, I am truly sorry for my outburst.

Leon

silv (Annette) · #53 20-10-2016, 08:06 AM

sil (Steve) · #54 20-10-2016, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by leon

Sil you have lost me mate,

Leon

sorry i bothered.

sil (Steve) · #55 20-10-2016, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by multiweb

What do you mean by "stabilisation"?

I have a procedure I go through when data recovering hard drives. Some software methods do more damage to a drive , if the drive is developing physical faults. Some physical faults can actually be repaired (not always) but the process I go through at least stabilises some physical faults from spreading so the drive has the best chance of data recovery. So before attempting to ghost the drive or recovering direct from it I find it worth the time it takes to do this step. It also gives clients the option of taking the drive elsewhere to try other methods I can't do (like board swapping) if I fail (rare). This process also gives me a good indication if I'm dealing with a hardware problem or merely software fault for recovery so I choose appropriate recovery methods. I try to ensure I dont stress the drive much during recovery, most "dead drives" are more from faulty power supplies or human error and most people dont want the drive back after recovery so I run them through heavy formatting and benchmarking tests to see if they are performing at speed and I'm confident the drives are safe for use and I end up reusing them myself for projects. Only the ones that fail any single in any way get binned, which is very rare.

leon · #56 21-10-2016, 09:05 AM

Sil I was not trying to shut you down, I just don't have that Computer knowledge that you speak of.

I had no idea what you were talking about, however i am sure it would make sense to others.

My PC needs are very simple and i am OK with that, my machine dose exactly what i need.

I know nothing about cloning and the like, hence the many questions.

You young people are born into technology, I pushed the first start button on a Computer when i was 56 and am learning every day, and now 10 years later at 66 I am reasonably good at it, but not as good as some.

Thank you however for your response.

Leon