A Battlestar in Cetus - Page 3

strongmanmike (Michael) · #41 05-11-2014, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Rod771

Very nice Mike!

There's galaxies or Cylons everywhere in that background. I enjoyed scanning around image, lovely view! I didn't see Star Buck though

.

Cheers Rod...for me the true nature of the Rorschach test ink blot in this scene was obvious

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Originally Posted by alpal

Yes - I wish there were about 20 Hubble telescopes out there
instead of one they are retiring.
There must be a million interesting galaxies that we'll never see at 0.1 arc second resolution.

Wouldn't it be great

...hopefuly we will see amateur space telescopes eventually.
Mike

alpal · #42 05-11-2014, 07:26 PM

Mike,

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Wouldn't it be great

...hopefuly we will see amateur space telescopes eventually.
Mike

I doubt that Mike.
How about a 1 meter aperture robotic scope operated by a consortium of amateurs -
all getting their own time to take data & sharing their data -
maybe at Siding Spring?

cheers
Allan

strongmanmike (Michael) · #43 05-11-2014, 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by alpal

Mike,

I doubt that Mike.
How about a 1 meter aperture robotic scope operated by a consortium of amateurs -
all getting their own time to take data & sharing their data -
maybe at Siding Spring?

cheers
Allan

Yeah that could work too I guess

Mike

Ross G · #44 05-11-2014, 11:08 PM

A beautiful photo Mike.

Great colours and detail.

I love the composition!

Ross.

strongmanmike (Michael) · #45 05-11-2014, 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Ross G

A beautiful photo Mike.

Great colours and detail.

I love the composition!

Ross.

Great to hear Ross, the three things I was after

Mike

alpal · #46 07-11-2014, 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by strongmanmike

Yeah that could work too I guess

Mike

Hi Mike,
Yes - maybe 1 meter is too ambitious but imagine if say 5
keen amateur astronomers sold all their equipment then used that money
combined to get a hard core large RC or classic Cassegrain in one of those
astronomy places that looks after many telescopes for a fee in
a proper dark location operated remotely.
The fee would be divided by 5.
What about 2 identical smaller telescopes on one large mount -
one with an OAG doing 1x1 binned luminance & the other bolted on the side doing 2x2 binned RGB colour?
You'd have more top quality data than one person could process.

I'm thinking about it as Melbourne is just too cloudy.
We don't all have the resources to have our own observatory.

cheers
Allan

strongmanmike (Michael) · #47 08-11-2014, 04:50 PM

Maaate so many options...any way it was done would be a significant on going expense...thaaaat I recon would receive a loooong glare from my darling if I was to ask

Mike

alpal · #48 08-11-2014, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by strongmanmike

Maaate so many options...any way it was done would be a significant on going expense...thaaaat I recon would receive a loooong glare from my darling if I was to ask

Mike

Easy solution - you tell her you'll have more time to watch Home & Away
with her as you won't be in your observatory or outside.

stevous67 (Steve M) · #49 09-11-2014, 09:51 AM

Hi Mike,

You've done a wonderful image, with many interesting objects to be found for us to see. The noise in the image is only detectable to those who zoom down to look for it. Its very pleasing to the eye, with nice colouration.

Well done.

Steve

strongmanmike (Michael) · #50 09-11-2014, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by alpal

Easy solution - you tell her you'll have more time to watch Home & Away
with her as you won't be in your observatory or outside.

Yeah thought of that.....

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Originally Posted by stevous67

Hi Mike,

You've done a wonderful image, with many interesting objects to be found for us to see. The noise in the image is only detectable to those who zoom down to look for it. Its very pleasing to the eye, with nice colouration.

Well done.

Steve

Thanks Steve

Hey there is much more to an image than the amount of noise, real or perceived and as I said to Paul the level of noise each imager (and viewer) finds objectionable clearly varies. There are many examples of fantastic images, even ones taken by the big names in astroimaging, that show obvious noise but for my eye this does not necessarily prevent them from being great images.

Mike

stevous67 (Steve M) · #51 09-11-2014, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by strongmanmike

There are many examples of fantastic images, even ones taken by the big names in astroimaging, that show obvious noise but for my eye this does not necessarily prevent them from being great images.

Mike

Agreed. Nicely said.

Take care,

Steve

Geoff45 (Geoff) · #52 10-11-2014, 05:07 PM

Nice detail and framing Mike. The little galaxies really make the picture. It does look a little over colourful, even to someone like me who is not known for holding back on colour. Actually, truth be told, I am not overfond of galaxy pics with the Ha regions showing up like a bad case of acne. I really think that muting them a bit would give a much nicer result.
Geoff
Note added: I've just had another look at the full res pic. The main colours in the galaxy itself are nice. It's just the red spots that give the impression of too much colour.

Leonardo70 (Leonardo Orazi) · #53 10-11-2014, 07:34 PM

Great result Mike. Great color !!
Wonderful the chain !!

All the best,
Leo

strongmanmike (Michael) · #54 10-11-2014, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by ghsmith45

Nice detail and framing Mike. The little galaxies really make the picture. It does look a little over colourful, even to someone like me who is not known for holding back on colour. Actually, truth be told, I am not overfond of galaxy pics with the Ha regions showing up like a bad case of acne. I really think that muting them a bit would give a much nicer result.
Geoff
Note added: I've just had another look at the full res pic. The main colours in the galaxy itself are nice. It's just the red spots that give the impression of too much colour.

Hey thanks for the fresh and frank opinion, I like the way you explained yourself Geoff and I totally get your opinion

I think ones eye gets used to certain "looks" or "trends" in looks even what you are used to doing with your own work (which of course your eyes spend hours staring at) sets your expectations. Then throw in the work of a colourblind imager with an incredible and big scope under dark skies and hey...it's on for young and old

I like to add the Ha to highlight the HII regions and this is often something the pro scopes do in order to do exactly that - highlight the HII regions rather than shooting for some sort of "natural"? what ever that is, look

Of course I also appreciate these "natural" looking images too and on occasions have been know to knock one out myself

Cheers big ears

Mike

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Originally Posted by Leonardo70

Great result Mike. Great color !!
Wonderful the chain !!

All the best,
Leo

Grazie Leo

Geoff45 (Geoff) · #55 10-11-2014, 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by strongmanmike

I think ones eye gets used to certain "looks" or "trends" in looks even what you are used to doing with your own work (which of course your eyes spend hours staring at) sets your expectations.

Quite agree. I remember some years ago looking on the PI website gallery and thinking that the pics were overdone. Now I think they look "natural". Stars are a similar issue. I used to think that hard well-defined edges were the goer but now I want them to fade away with a Gaussian distribution
Geoff

strongmanmike (Michael) · #56 12-11-2014, 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by ghsmith45

Quite agree. I remember some years ago looking on the PI website gallery and thinking that the pics were overdone. Now I think they look "natural". Stars are a similar issue. I used to think that hard well-defined edges were the goer but now I want them to fade away with a Gaussian distribution
Geoff

Yeah, I remember when many of the top RCOS deep sky images had Christmas bobble like stars and many loved'em, then minimising the stars became more popular, oh and then there was noise reduction

...it became normal at one stage to have an image look like it was made of plastic, particularly ones taken with the first DSLR's like the 300D

Imaging processing fashions...come and go... and then make a resurgence

Mike

alpal · #57 19-11-2014, 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by strongmanmike

Yeah, I remember when many of the top RCOS deep sky images had Christmas bobble like stars and many loved'em, then minimising the stars became more popular, oh and then there was noise reduction

...it became normal at one stage to have an image look like it was made of plastic, particularly ones taken with the first DSLR's like the 300D

Imaging processing fashions...come and go... and then make a resurgence

Mike

I think most images can do with a tiny LAB boost of colour - other wise they look washed out.
Controlling bright stars is always a problem.
A one minute exposure of each of RGB helps a lot later to tame the stars -
you never hit the full well depth -
& think about it it only takes 3 to 4 minutes to complete -
well worth the small amount of time on a many hours imaging session.

rogerg (Roger) · #58 25-11-2014, 04:27 PM

Awesome image of the galaxy Mike and now I'm craving some BSG episodes

strongmanmike (Michael) · #59 25-11-2014, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by rogerg

Awesome image of the galaxy Mike and now I'm craving some BSG episodes

Oooh yeah, I too was a huge BSG fan as a kid, loved that show, even created my own major drama piece based on it for English in Yr11 (1984)

- by your command

Glad you liked the look of the galaxy too Roger

Mike