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Old 13-04-2014, 12:46 PM
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Is that all? I was thinking 100+ maybe I will keep looking.
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Old 13-04-2014, 01:27 PM
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Thanks Renato, you certainly have some gear (20 pairs????)
I think I am going to give the andrews bino a go as an entry level, can't go wrong with $90. I can get some cheap Denks etc on astromart but would cost $100 to get them here. I still don't know what I need to get it to work, would a different focuser be an option and if so, what would that mean for single ep viewing?
Make sure you ask the knowledgeable people at Andrews if their binoviewer works in a dob, and if not, if they have the accessory that makes it do so.

On my Denkmeir binoviewer, I have to connect the optical correction piece, the Newtonian spacer and the nose piece together and into the binoviewer to be able to get focus. It's a long light relay mechanism. I don't think a different focuser would get you there if your telescope was like mine.

If your secondary mirror isn't somewhat oversized, and it currently exactly matches the light coming in from the primary mirror, wouldn't raising the primary mirror to get focus in a binoviewer effectively reduce the aperture of your telescope? Since some of the light from the primary would not be reflected by the secondary?

Before buying any cheap Denks on Astromart, you have to make sure that you know what you are buying. I bought the package with everything in it which cost the most, but at the time they did sell lesser packages. So you may be buying something that was cheaper in the first instance. I've got the older type Denkmeir (I think they have Type 11 now), and in a Newtonian I can get 1.3X and 2.3X with any set of eyepieces. By way of contrast, in an SCT I can get 0.66X, 1.15X and 2X.

As for my binoculars, some are expensive, some are moderately price and some are Ebay bargains. Funniest pair I bought was three years ago when I bid $51 on a pair of brand new Sakura 20X80 binoculars and won. Comparing them to my other binoculars, they were actually 16X75 in performance, and they had that looking down a well effect, like looking through orthoscopic eyepieces. But they are very good on DSOs. I told club members about them, and one guy won a pair for $46, and he was delighted with them.

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Renato

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Old 14-04-2014, 03:31 PM
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Ok, spoke with Luke from Andrews this morning about their bino compatability with a 12" LB and he said they have never tried that combination due to them not selling the LB. He thinks that a 2x or maybe 3x barlow is all that is required on a solid 12" and cant see why it would be any different with a LB. so... I have ordered the bino, 2 x 20mm superviews and a GSO 3x barlow (I already have a 2x) and they were nice enough to overnight post them, I am trying to do some observing at a dark site over the long weekend. Fingers crossed that it will work. Seibert optical have a multi mag barlow which claims to work on EVERY telescope even dobs for $169 so that will be plan B. Thank you to everyone who helped me with this yesterday, I realise it was sunday morning and you probably had better things to do. I will post a review on this thread IF i get them going.
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