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05-04-2012, 12:44 AM
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The 20Da did not last long on the shelves because it was a limited edition run. An executive in Canon was interested in astronomy and his influence helped create the product.
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Originally Posted by Star Hunter
For $1500 bucks is not expensive really. Though it may have some nice features over the 20Da, it will be interesting to see what reviews come out. The 20Da did not last too long on the shelf. Perhaps Canon has seen the light and produced a camera that will serve a niche in the market place. I hope it does. Now if I can only convince the missus she needs a 60Da DSLR......
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05-04-2012, 12:47 AM
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The other cameras you mentioned would need to be modified for hydrogen alpha response. So, while you could get a new or second hand 5D Mark II, you would still need to modify it, thereby ruining its daylight spectral response as well as autofocus system.
The camera is aimed specifically at astrophotographers. Particularly those who aren't interested in, or can't afford a CCD.
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Originally Posted by leinad
My 5c. Sorry but I don't see what all the hype is all about, but very well may be proven wrong when the professional reviews surface.
Maybe I already own a CCD, 60D for terrestrial photos; and can't reason for this the mid point at that price.
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05-04-2012, 12:53 AM
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40D with UV/IR had no autofocus issue with custom white balance which I assume this camera will utilize; How does that differ from the 5D?
Modification Only if you endeavor for more Ha in photos; that's the sell point. So this filter doesn't ruin daylight spectral response? Have I missed something.
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Originally Posted by Octane
The other cameras you mentioned would need to be modified for hydrogen alpha response. So, while you could get a new or second hand 5D Mark II, you would still need to modify it, thereby ruining its daylight spectral response as well as autofocus system.
The camera is aimed specifically at astrophotographers. Particularly those who aren't interested in, or can't afford a CCD.
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05-04-2012, 01:02 AM
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That's the thing, you can still use the 20Da and 60Da as a terrestrial camera. But, its strength over a non-modified camera is that it lets in enough hydrogen alpha to give you pleasing reds.
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05-04-2012, 01:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Octane
That's the thing, you can still use the 20Da and 60Da as a terrestrial camera. But, its strength over a non-modified camera is that it lets in enough hydrogen alpha to give you pleasing reds.
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I don't think there's any difference between the 60dA and a modded 60d, the only difference would be to keep Canon's warranty. It's just taking a filter out and putting a new filter in.
For daytime photography you would need a light IR blocking filter on the lens to avoid IR filtration and color shifts.
I really think this is just a quick mod of a 60d by Canon, I will buy one anyway because my T2i needs an upgrade
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05-04-2012, 01:35 AM
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Warranty is a minor comfort, they're so solid I haven't heard of too many failures that are expensive fixes; but you know you'll want full UV/IR modification in the end.
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05-04-2012, 05:19 PM
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Lost in Namibia
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Ive spoken to our local - and Im getting one
Cheers Petra d.
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05-04-2012, 07:32 PM
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Ive spoken to our local - and Im getting one
Cheers Petra d.
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Congrats!
I have no local and I hope to be able to get one, crossing fingers!
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05-04-2012, 08:21 PM
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Narrowfield rules!
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It would be a killer for IR TL. With an 87C filter exposure times gat a bit silly on a regular cam, which doesn't matter much for single frames, but for IR TL (and the dramatic sky/cloud contrast it renders) the short exposures and hence high frame rate videos would make the 60a a standard of the shelf choice bar none.
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05-04-2012, 10:40 PM
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The devil's advocate
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I've got 1100Da, nearly haha. It's great that canon is doing this, though it would be much more flexable to remove all Internal IR cut's and place them external. I know it would add cost, but lol $20 is nothing to the expense of modding and for camera's at the level of the 60D this sort of thing should be standard. Then again at least canon is putting thought into the small nich of market that astrophotography fills, its just a shame they charge more coin then is warranted to an off the self 60D. But hey its got 60Da on the box and camera for bling
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06-04-2012, 02:46 AM
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06-04-2012, 03:26 AM
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If those are single shots they look very good to me!
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06-04-2012, 08:30 AM
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Lost in Namibia
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There is discussion on cloudy nights worth having a look. Looks good so far and I like the tilt screen. 60d hutech mod about the same price. Interested in seeing comparisons between the two.
I'm a fan of live view and it was a toss up between a dedicated CCD and canon, and the timing of the release is good - suits my budget.
Cheers Petra d.
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06-04-2012, 08:58 AM
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Congrats Petra. Can't wait to see what you can do with it.
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06-04-2012, 09:53 AM
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Lost in Namibia
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Hi Greg
Not getting excited yet - until its in my hand, cant wait though!
Cloudynights suggest delivery June - but im waiting for the guys here in Albury to get back to me.
Cheers Petra d.
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06-04-2012, 11:48 AM
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Petra,
Who did you order through, if you don't mind me asking?
Cheers.
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06-04-2012, 11:52 AM
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Lost in Namibia
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I spoke to our local Camera Supplies, and they are following it up. I should know more after the Easter break.
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Originally Posted by Octane
Petra,
Who did you order through, if you don't mind me asking?
Cheers.
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Cheers Petra d.
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06-04-2012, 05:31 PM
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Was gonna ask the same thing H, as I've been hitting brick walls.
Have one local store chasing it up for me, probably helped that I asked for a quote for two units
Petra, you say CN suggests June delivery, yet Canon Aus. website says 19th April?
I could have sworn 3 days ago it said 16th April, so seems it has been bumped 3 days already lol.
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Originally Posted by Octane
Petra,
Who did you order through, if you don't mind me asking?
Cheers.
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06-04-2012, 07:03 PM
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Lost in Namibia
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Hi Simon
Even better mid April delivery!
Cheers Petra d.
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06-04-2012, 11:06 PM
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Originally Posted by MrB
Was gonna ask the same thing H, as I've been hitting brick walls.
Have one local store chasing it up for me, probably helped that I asked for a quote for two units
Petra, you say CN suggests June delivery, yet Canon Aus. website says 19th April?
I could have sworn 3 days ago it said 16th April, so seems it has been bumped 3 days already lol.
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Locally, PRA have announced you can pre-order it.
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