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Old 27-09-2012, 12:53 PM
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Ron, he who pays the piper calls the tune. The contractor does not provide the parts, NBN does. If they choose to not allow the contractor to carry parts he might need that's their decision.

That is not correct.

Optus was awarded a $200 million fixed price contract and IPStar a $100
million fixed price contract to be the interim satellite service
providers until 2015.

These deals replaced the $325 million broadband guarantee initiative.

Optus is the second largest telecommunications company in Australia and
is a wholly owned subsidiary of Singapore Telecommunications (ASX SGT).

Optus is arguably the obvious choice as prime contractor because they own
the satellites being used in the interim service and are synonymous with satellite
service delivery in Australia and therefore have the experience and expertise.

Optus, as the prime contractor, independently signed on Gilat Satellite
Satellite Networks Australia Pty Ltd for the deployment of their SkyEdge
VSAT installations and additional infrastructure within three years. This
agreement was reported to be worth "up to $120 million".

Gilat awarded Skybridge (Australia) a three year contract to provide
provide national installation and maintenance services for the terminals.

Skybridge recruits independent contracted technicians to perform the
installations. Typically local blokes with their own satellite dish
installation service businesses with their own white van and tools. See
https://secure.skybridge.com.au/GMCW...Contractor.pdf


So the deployment is about as complete a model of free enterprise
as can be and is not dissimilar in that regard to, for example, the
building of spacecraft under NASA contract for a fixed price by private
enterprise.

Contractually, in this case, the buck ultimately stops with Optus and
its parent company's shareholders, who are under a fixed priced
contract obligation to deploy the system, or with one of its
sub-contractors down the chain.

Al, I hope you get your pole soon.

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Gary Kopff
Mt Kuring-Gai NSW
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Old 27-09-2012, 04:29 PM
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Thanks for the clarification Gary. Saved me some research of my own.

Regardless, the incompetence is wholely and solely in Skybridge. No one else, not the local contractor (perhaps that should be sub-contractor to be pedantic).

The saga continues, but I will not add further fuel to fire.

Al.
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Old 27-09-2012, 04:40 PM
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And what exactly do they mean your roof is too flexible? Is it the expansion/contraction in the materials, the pitch, or condition?
I found that amusing...sounds like another delay excuse
I hope you are back online soon
On the first installation attempt, the SUB-contractor (previously referred to as the contractor) explained to me that the roof was too flexible. The new dish is 1.5m diameter. My existing one is 800mm diameter. Wind load on the 1.5m dish at 35 kph is 85 kgf. The roof visibly deflects under weight when walking on it, not enough to be concerning safety-wise but enough to allow the dish to deflect off alignment with the satellite... apparently. 35 kph winds are pretty common in Oberon, being on top of the GDR. So the satellite link is not likely to be reliable if mounted on the roof.

It would appear to be a reasonably common problem for them to provide poles for just such instances.

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Old 27-09-2012, 05:09 PM
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AL is there anything special about the pole
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Old 27-09-2012, 05:30 PM
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Not that I'm aware.

I think they said it was a 2" pipe, but to me that seems pretty flexible in itself. Time will tell.

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Old 27-09-2012, 06:19 PM
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Thanks for the clarification Gary. Saved me some research of my own.

Regardless, the incompetence is wholely and solely in Skybridge. No one else, not the local contractor (perhaps that should be sub-contractor to be pedantic).

The saga continues, but I will not add further fuel to fire.

Al.
Al, Skybridge as I said and Gary clarified is a private company so the government as I also said has nothing to do with your installation problem whatsoever.
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Old 27-09-2012, 07:06 PM
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I appreciate that Ron. I don't really care whether its government or not.



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Old 27-09-2012, 07:39 PM
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I appreciate that Ron. I don't really care whether its government or not.



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All's good Al
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Old 27-09-2012, 07:50 PM
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I would find another installer and tell them where they can shove there pipe
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