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Old 20-08-2012, 04:19 PM
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The data mining possibilities are frightening, and especially when applying the inexact science of facial recognition.
I heard something about that bit in the news recently.
Just had a quick sqizz.

It seems they want to link cameras in shops to your facebook profiles/friends via facial recognition software, ( which you may not know you agreed to ??? )
I know it says you have to opt in, but i reckon that wont last long,
esp if there is money involved in the image to name links.

Then i found this as well
http://www.scmagazine.com.au/News/31...stigation.aspx
It seems they can scan all images people load, and if you are in one, they can link all the people in the image together.
Could be fun.
( Wonder if it works on cats )

Sooo, whilst it may be a great way to keep in touch,
i'm not sure i would trust the owners of the data
with all the other tidbits being collected along the way.

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Old 20-08-2012, 08:52 PM
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Old 20-08-2012, 09:14 PM
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I think it's sad that some people feel they NEED to be on Facebook or Twitter to be accepted.
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Old 20-08-2012, 09:26 PM
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I think it's sad that some people feel they NEED to be on Facebook or Twitter to be accepted.
Just like some people feel the need to be on astro forums to be accepted... Or community clubs, or support groups. Exactly the same thing....
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Old 20-08-2012, 09:39 PM
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I think it's sad that some people feel they NEED to be on Facebook or Twitter to be accepted.
Who Says what you say above
I have no need to be on face book to be excepted
I have been on FB for a few years and I enjoy the experience .
I have no fear of the so called using of my information to on sell to other agencies as I don't buy or am not involved in anything that they can profit from.
There are plenty of other ways that your information can be obtained just as effectively.
I think that the people who knock Social media such as face book and to a lesser extent "My Space" (does it still exist) and Twitter, should just get a life, if you don't like it Don't bother about it but don't knock other people who enjoy using it.
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Old 20-08-2012, 10:09 PM
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Just like some people feel the need to be on astro forums to be accepted... Or community clubs, or support groups. Exactly the same thing....
I don't agree it is exactly the same thing.
I see the need for Senior Citizens, Rotary, RSL, U3A, Apex Clubs and dozens of other support groups.
Every day you read about kids being harassed and bullied on anti-social network sites. These kids feel they need to join these sites to be accepted into their group of friends. Peer pressure puts these kids at risk. That's what is sad.
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Old 20-08-2012, 10:26 PM
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Who Says what you say above
I do of course, that's why you clicked the 'Quote' button
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I have no need to be on face book to be excepted
I have been on FB for a few years and I enjoy the experience .
That's nice, glad you enjoy it. But that does not mean I have to like it.
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I think that the people who knock Social media such as face book and to a lesser extent "My Space" (does it still exist) and Twitter, should just get a life,
they probably already do have a life
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if you don't like it Don't bother about it but don't knock other people who enjoy using it.
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Personally, I have not knocked any person, including yourself, who enjoys it. No need getting all cranky about it.
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Old 20-08-2012, 10:53 PM
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My personal thoughts are that FaceBook may be useful to a lot of people for getting in contact with long-lost friends, but the increasing trends for people to check in and give locations and times, as well as all the small bits of information that individually are not that useful but when collated across a continent become downright scary with the possibilities for our private lives. I do think that in a few years we will see more and more issues arising from having our whole lives documented in a private company's servers.
Even if I did not have a FB account, just googling my name can bring up heaps of info. You just need to be creative with the search terms......
(Saying that, I still have not been able to find a childhood sweetheart from Holland)


I have nothing to hide and therefore would not give a flying duck what they can glean from me by using facebook.
I'm sure professional (police) profilers ( or even you - not you Cathalferris- just anybody) can make some sort of a profile of who I am by just looking at my pictures, FB sites I subscribe to and who are my friends are ( and then their profiles too....)
If I get an untoward email........of to the junk mail it goes. If I get a phone call ( and this is what you should do when getting this type of call) that wants to sell me something, I ask them if I can put them on hold for a "sec".....then just leave them on hold for as long as they stay there......this way they cant make any more calls.....ehehehheheh.


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I have no need to be on face book to be excepted
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I have no fear of the so called using of my information to on sell to other agencies as I don't buy or am not involved in anything that they can profit from.
There are plenty of other ways that your information can be obtained just as effectively.
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Old 21-08-2012, 10:43 AM
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The authorities do not think that Facebook is a gift from the Big Brother gods, nor are they monitoring the things you post.
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Old 21-08-2012, 12:12 PM
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WHAT WILL REPLACE FACEBOOK?

Terry Prachett's book 'Going Postal' might have the answer.

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Old 24-08-2012, 11:33 AM
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It's not as much the interest specifically in any persons postings in particular, but the dangers associated with the results of data mining statistical analysis, applying to your details. It may either make known something that one would wish remained out of circulation, or otherwise may end up putting you in a pigeon hole by mistake and major decisions may end up influenced by something you do not know about and that you have no control over. By adding your information to the FaceBook pool of knowledge you make it easier and more accurace for FaceBook and it's further customers to get data.

To those that think they have nothing to hide, why would you close the door on a public toilet when you use it? Overall it's a specious argument to say "I've nothing to hide". Of course you do - everyone does. as it's only human. It's more important to say "I've nothing to hide - therefore you should not even be looking"

Also, never forget who are the customers of entities like FaceBook and others - here's a hint: It's not the users...
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Old 24-08-2012, 11:56 AM
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As to security a lot of people (especially the young) are simply oblivious to how wearing a security pass is not as innocuous as it seems.

I commute to work and see a lot of young girls will wear these tags in public announcing to anyone

"I'm Mary Jane a Nurse at RPH"

From this it would not be hard for anyone to use these simple facts to their advantage

We used to have similar security passes with photo ID etc but they are now long gone.

As I see it social sites are rife with information that could be used by the unscrupulous to their advantage.
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Old 24-08-2012, 12:36 PM
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Google+ is FB's only real rival atm.
It's a sleeker version, more adult orientated and dare I say intellectual. It's where the bloggers, authors and science guru's discuss their work before feeding it to the masses on FB.

I can't see FB going any where for the time being. It has it's users and abusers I know. One needs to be aware and careful of what one posts though. What is written cannot be unwritten (deleted, yes, but not before everyone gets a copy in their inbox)
So for the time being, I'm more than happy to be part of the FB community and accept the many opportunities that have arisen because of my active membership on FB. I can't wait to be able to share the latest ones with everyone. Wheee!!
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Old 24-08-2012, 12:38 PM
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Google+ is FB's only real rival atm.
It's a sleeker version, more adult orientated and dare I say intellectual. It's where the bloggers, authors and science guru's discuss their work before feeding it to the masses on FB.

I can't see FB going any where for the time being. It has it's users and abusers I know. One needs to be aware and careful of what one posts though. What is written cannot be unwritten (deleted, yes, but not before everyone gets a copy in their inbox)
So for the time being, I'm more than happy to be part of the FB community and accept the many opportunities that have arisen because of my active membership on FB. I can't wait to be able to share the latest ones with everyone. Wheee!!
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Where's the damned "like" button here Mike? LOL
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Old 24-08-2012, 06:04 PM
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Where's the damned "like" button here Mike? LOL
lol Chris I just done the same thing I went for the like button
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Here's the guts of a conversation I once had...

Them: "Okay, fine. So do you believe there's such a thing as a Facebook and Twitter for straight adult males?"

Me: "Yeah mate. It's called The Pub."

NOW I feel much better. But then, usually...............
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Old 21-09-2012, 07:32 PM
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I've done an about face and did what I thought I'd never do -- joined both Google Plus and Facebook. To my benefit, I have landed photography gigs through Facebook.

I take back any and all words against social networking I've ever said.

It feels like a souped up version of IRC which I'd been using since 1995/1996 when I first got online.

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Old 21-09-2012, 07:37 PM
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Glad you came on board H.
They're a friendly bunch out there aren't they.
It all depends on how you use it, whether you see the good, the bad or the ugly.
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Old 22-09-2012, 07:26 AM
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I've done an about face and did what I thought I'd never do -- joined both Google Plus and Facebook. To my benefit, I have landed photography gigs through Facebook.

I take back any and all words against social networking I've ever said.

It feels like a souped up version of IRC which I'd been using since 1995/1996 when I first got online.

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To be honest, most of the people who bag it have probably never tried it.

People who try Google+ and then say it's boring, is because they're not following the right people.

Add some of the science circles or landscape astrophotography circles that Fraser Cain or others post every so often, and you'll have hundreds of very talented people to follow with a constant stream of great stuff coming into your feed.

Facebook is the same - it's all down to how you use it and how you want to use it.
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Old 22-09-2012, 06:00 PM
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Mike, I was abiding by some outmoded and outdated thinking that I keep in touch with my friends in real life, and, so on.

I understand that it's so much more than that.

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