Go Back   IceInSpace > Images > Solar System
Register FAQ Calendar Today's Posts Search

Reply
 
Thread Tools Rate Thread
  #21  
Old 23-02-2005, 12:25 PM
Comet Hunter's Avatar
Comet Hunter
Registered User

Comet Hunter is offline
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: SE QLD
Posts: 381
hhmm, interesting thought Paul! The capture program I use is the 'QuickCapture' feature of the Logitech Quickcam suite that comes with the camera. I'm not doing any compressing of the avi, but thats not say the program isn't automatically...something to look into!

I've tried using K3CCDtools to capture with but had problems with saving the avi's on the laptop - the file is written but it contains no data... I wonder if thats due to the laptop having trouble with the larger (100meg+) files that it should be creating... laptop is a 1.4Ghz Centrino with 512 RAM.....

I'll be looking into it now thats for sure!!
Reply With Quote
  #22  
Old 23-02-2005, 02:57 PM
rumples riot
Who knows

rumples riot is offline
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Blackwood South Australia
Posts: 3,051
Sorry Andrew, will try to do it this afternoon, unfortunately I put my back out again last night and am in agony right now. I promise I will get to it soon.
Reply With Quote
  #23  
Old 23-02-2005, 02:58 PM
ving's Avatar
ving (David)
~Dust bunny breeder~

ving is offline
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: The town of campbells
Posts: 12,359
you need to get a smaller scope paul!
if only to save your back!
Reply With Quote
  #24  
Old 23-02-2005, 03:07 PM
iceman's Avatar
iceman (Mike)
Sir Post a Lot!

iceman is offline
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Gosford, NSW, Australia
Posts: 36,799
I agree, Paul, i'll take the LX200 off your hands while your recover!
Reply With Quote
  #25  
Old 23-02-2005, 04:18 PM
Comet Hunter's Avatar
Comet Hunter
Registered User

Comet Hunter is offline
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: SE QLD
Posts: 381
No rush Paul its not going anywhere, worry about yourself for now...
Reply With Quote
  #26  
Old 23-02-2005, 04:27 PM
ving's Avatar
ving (David)
~Dust bunny breeder~

ving is offline
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: The town of campbells
Posts: 12,359
yeah, the sky will still be there when you ack is better... rest up Mr.

I hurt my back a couple of weeks ago and didnt lift a thing for a whole week and a half till it was better. god I was a pain at home
Reply With Quote
  #27  
Old 23-02-2005, 04:54 PM
Striker's Avatar
Striker (Tony)
Whats visual Astronomy

Striker is offline
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Brisbane
Posts: 5,062
I know how you feal Paul...nothing worse then a bad back......look after your self mate......

P.S Keep an eye on your windows......Ving could be snooping....lol
Reply With Quote
  #28  
Old 23-02-2005, 05:02 PM
Striker's Avatar
Striker (Tony)
Whats visual Astronomy

Striker is offline
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Brisbane
Posts: 5,062
Maybe you should down grade your scope...

This is what I recommend...if you still want a LX200..their only 7" tall....lol

http://www.users.on.net/~striker/minilx200-1.jpg
http://www.users.on.net/~striker/minilx200-2.jpg
http://www.users.on.net/~striker/minilx200-3.jpg
Reply With Quote
  #29  
Old 23-02-2005, 05:14 PM
rumples riot
Who knows

rumples riot is offline
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Blackwood South Australia
Posts: 3,051
Well here it is, my processing of the AVI; pardon the clumsy attempt at cloning out the dust speck. Processed with stack of 69 frames, deconvolution in astra image, colour and despeckle and brightness, contrast in photoshop.

What do you think Andrew?
Attached Thumbnails
Click for full-size image (jupiter andrew 1aps.jpg)
8.1 KB102 views
Reply With Quote
  #30  
Old 23-02-2005, 05:36 PM
Comet Hunter's Avatar
Comet Hunter
Registered User

Comet Hunter is offline
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: SE QLD
Posts: 381
Looks good Paul! only 69 frames? I've tried reprocessing mine a few times again but cant quiet get back to the same level as the first image...

Got my can of air today to deal with the dust issue, just need clear skies now, a few clouds atm but hopefully they'll clear by tonight
Reply With Quote
  #31  
Old 23-02-2005, 08:11 PM
iceman's Avatar
iceman (Mike)
Sir Post a Lot!

iceman is offline
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Gosford, NSW, Australia
Posts: 36,799
Looks nice Paul.
Reply With Quote
  #32  
Old 24-02-2005, 12:31 PM
Comet Hunter's Avatar
Comet Hunter
Registered User

Comet Hunter is offline
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: SE QLD
Posts: 381
The clouds persisted on staying last night so I took the oppertunity to sort out this low file size fiasco with the QC. Nuked the laptop and did fresh install of Win XP and only a few astro programs installed (cartes du ciel etc).

I then did some tests of 60sec dark avi's (cover left on camera), 15fps. The QC suite still only saved 7 odd meg files while K3CCDtools now seems to be working correctly . Using the default compression codec 'Cinepak' resulted in 775 frames out of 899 being dropped = approx 4meg file. I changed the codec to 'Logitech Video' which resulted in 17 frames dropped from 899 = approx 97meg file. I then tried 'Full Frame (UnCompressed)' which gave 50 frames dropped (all were after ~30sec mark into the 60sec recording) out of 898, but weights in at 186meg.

Version of K3CCDTools is 1.0.6.460, I know its a very old version but it doesn't have the registration requirements the newer versions do .

Hopefully testing of real world targets produce similar results and not the lock ups/file problems that plagued me previously.
Reply With Quote
  #33  
Old 24-02-2005, 01:08 PM
[1ponders]'s Avatar
[1ponders] (Paul)
Retired, damn no pension

[1ponders] is offline
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Obi Obi, Qld
Posts: 18,778
that sounds more like it Andrew. Lets see if that makes a difference in the ability to push your waveletting.

Good luck
Reply With Quote
  #34  
Old 24-02-2005, 01:16 PM
ving's Avatar
ving (David)
~Dust bunny breeder~

ving is offline
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: The town of campbells
Posts: 12,359
Quote:
Originally posted by Striker
P.S Keep an eye on your windows......Ving could be snooping....lol
shhh!
Reply With Quote
  #35  
Old 24-02-2005, 01:29 PM
iceman's Avatar
iceman (Mike)
Sir Post a Lot!

iceman is offline
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Gosford, NSW, Australia
Posts: 36,799
Quote:
I then tried 'Full Frame (UnCompressed)'
Where are you setting this?
Reply With Quote
  #36  
Old 24-02-2005, 01:43 PM
Comet Hunter's Avatar
Comet Hunter
Registered User

Comet Hunter is offline
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: SE QLD
Posts: 381
ok, just realised it was in 320x240 , up'ed it to 640x480 and

Logitech codec - 19 dropped/899 - 387MB!!

Full Frame (Uncompressed) - 74 dropped/898 - 724MB!!!

Definately a step up from my piddly little 6meg files!

Last edited by Comet Hunter; 24-02-2005 at 01:54 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #37  
Old 24-02-2005, 01:50 PM
Comet Hunter's Avatar
Comet Hunter
Registered User

Comet Hunter is offline
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: SE QLD
Posts: 381
Ice, not sure what the current versions of K3CCDTools are like but my version has it in Options->Settings-> this opens a window that has 'Video Capture' tab selected and in here is a button labelled 'Compress...' This opens another window 'Video Compression' where you can select different codecs/compressors - mine has 9 different codecs to choose from...
Reply With Quote
  #38  
Old 24-02-2005, 01:54 PM
iceman's Avatar
iceman (Mike)
Sir Post a Lot!

iceman is offline
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Gosford, NSW, Australia
Posts: 36,799
hmm thanks, I can't open it at work because I don't have a webcam hooked up

I'll try tonight and see what mine is set to.

At the moment, I get a 90meg file for about 13 seconds of video @ 15fps (approx 200 frames). So it seems fairly uncompressed.

And I don't get any dropped frames.
Reply With Quote
  #39  
Old 24-02-2005, 01:58 PM
Comet Hunter's Avatar
Comet Hunter
Registered User

Comet Hunter is offline
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: SE QLD
Posts: 381
A 13sec 15fps Full Frame setting gives me 0 dropped/193 frames at weigthing in at 169meg
Reply With Quote
  #40  
Old 24-02-2005, 03:55 PM
[1ponders]'s Avatar
[1ponders] (Paul)
Retired, damn no pension

[1ponders] is offline
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Obi Obi, Qld
Posts: 18,778
Well you will take damn big images Andrew I must say I'm looking forward to seeing that Barlow at work
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT +10. The time is now 01:15 PM.

Powered by vBulletin Version 3.8.7 | Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Advertisement
Bintel
Advertisement
Astrophotography Prize
Advertisement