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Old 08-08-2012, 03:42 PM
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Colin, I assume you are trolling too.
Assume what you like Andrew. I just gave an example of what happened in the past as a possible reason why some people are sceptical.

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Don't think I fit that description.
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Old 08-08-2012, 04:05 PM
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Assume what you like Andrew. I just gave an example of what happened in the past as a possible reason why some people are sceptical.



Don't think I fit that description.
Sorry Colin, I think your comments do fit.

Like Andrew, I was involved in the Y2K preparations, and only due to the preparations made by many 100s of thousands of people, we turned a critical event into a non-event, and because we did our work properly, correctly and efficiently, we created a hoax.
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Old 08-08-2012, 06:07 PM
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Sorry Colin, I think your comments do fit.

we turned a critical event into a non-event,
Trevor,
That is how some people saw it. A non-event. That is probably why they are sceptics. They read about a looming problem, then they worry and when it does not affect them, they say "what was all the fuss about"
I too was involved in the issue. My task at the time was to ensure all the PLC's in our workplace complied. Took months of modifying code on the run yet the machine operators did not notice any difference so they could not understand what the fuss was about either. So I guess you could call them sceptics as well.
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Old 08-08-2012, 07:48 PM
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I heard an interview today about this event. What was not highlighted was that this entire landing happened on remote. The delay means that nothing is live and responses could not be made; it all had to be controlled by programming and engineering. A stunning event and bodes well for an interesting future.

Only an infantile knucklehead would think it was faked. My question is why would it be faked????
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Old 09-08-2012, 03:46 PM
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That's a pretty outdated view in my humble opinion.

The Enlightenment is already over. As the Endarkenment proceeds, these people will return to their rightful place as the rulers of all.

It is we who are still allowed to vote and breed, despite our wrong-headed attachment to logic and evidence.

I accept this and, out of respect, do not interfere with their right to choose one of their own to lead them, by voting myself.

And I keep my ear to the ground so that I will know when it is finally necessary to destroy my telescope and any evidence I ever had one.
I fear you are correct.
One of our local councillors - who has gone to Uni, didn't know what "indigent" meant.
He thought I was talking about Aboriginies.
A nurse employed by a friend of mine wanted to join MSF. She didn;t know where Darfur was and thought Africa is where S. America is.

Many years ago I read a short story in OMNI magazine about a world like this.
Scientists, engineers, doctors etc. were effectively the servants of the Bogan classes and only allowed to live in certain compounds and could only be employed by someone with a higher degree in something like Fishing or Trail Riding.
Scary.

'Course I'm not immune.
I went to buy some shoes recently. I asked what colours they came in and was told "Blue, Camel and Nun"
What colour's "Nun" I asked.
"It's more of a concept than a colour" the salesgirl pointed out
D'oh!
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Old 09-08-2012, 04:09 PM
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Hi Peter,

Unbelievable, almost. "It's more of a concept than a colour" the salesgirl pointed out".

Nun? I still don't know what colour that is.
And Camel, I've seen black, white, dark brown and beige. I find that kind of talk to be a poor attempt at appearing to be intelligent.

You found a bright one there, Peter. (sarcasm)

Hi Paul,

My question is why would it be faked????


The reason the USA sceptics give is, " Obama has claimed to have spent billions on the project and is really using the funds for ulterior purposes.".

Yes I agree the reasoning lacks substance. However that is the level of their logic. I shudder with goose bumps to think that many of these people have driver's licences.

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I remember Blue Nun wine in the 70's, was that a concept too?
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I shudder with goose bumps to think that many of these people have driver's licences.
Marty, it's worse than that. They are a waste of oxygen.
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Old 09-08-2012, 04:49 PM
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Sorry Colin, I think your comments do fit.

Like Andrew, I was involved in the Y2K preparations, and only due to the preparations made by many 100s of thousands of people, we turned a critical event into a non-event, and because we did our work properly, correctly and efficiently, we created a hoax.
Hmmm. I'm not a programmer so I don't really know, but...

On the one hand I worked in finance at the mathematical end at the time (lots of computer dependence), and the fear that this would be a problem was very real and didn't seem to me at the time to be totally without foundation. I also got the sense that the people doing the work fixing it were doing so in good faith, and didn't feel they were participating in a scam.

On the other hand, afterwards, the Economist made the following point. Most industrialised nations spent vast sums on the exercise and moved heaven and earth, and nothing went wrong - so far so good. However Italian government and business largely shrugged their shoulders and did nothing, and... nothing went wrong.

I think I'd characterise this as a massive over-reaction rather than a scam. For the avoidance of doubt, I'm counting myself as a guilty party here.

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I fear you are correct.
One of our local councillors - who has gone to Uni, didn't know what "indigent" meant.
He thought I was talking about Aboriginies.
Are you sure he didn't know what you meant? If he did, it's still a depressingly common view.

And as for Nun, I think she meant black, as in "Nun more black". (Spinal Tap, anyone?)
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Hmmm..Peter

Aboriginies .... similar to Aborigines but with three eyes instead of two ?
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Old 09-08-2012, 09:32 PM
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Do these people realy exist? Have you read their disclaimer?

"The information presented here is Biblically accurate. Opinions concerning the technical difficulties, fitness requirements, safety, and ratings of self-crucifixion, flagellation, stoning, destroying enemies of GOD utterly, without mercy, and other activities inherent in Christianity are subjective and may differ from yours or others' opinions; therefore be warned that you must exercise your own judgment as to the difficulty and your ability to safely protect yourself from the inherent risks and dangers."

What a crack up...
Yeah it's a scream that web site. It's like a live to air comedy routine having a shot at fundamentalist christians and televangelists.
Very funny stuff.
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Old 10-08-2012, 12:44 AM
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I shudder with goose bumps to think that many of these people have driver's licences.

Cheers
Worse still GUNS
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Old 10-08-2012, 11:15 AM
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Hmmm..Peter

Aboriginies .... similar to Aborigines but with three eyes instead of two ?
Ty
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Old 10-08-2012, 11:29 AM
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I think the indigent comes from India

Anyhow I think we can all be referred to as indigent (needy, poor) these days.

If indigenous is meant then I claim to be a native of Australia after Five generations. If I try to go to another country that is how I am classified.


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Ask them to scan the high resolution images of the Martian landscape inch by inch, there is not a tin can or bottle top to be seen and as everyone knows their virtually not a place on earth that man's been where some form of rubbish hasn't been left behind
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Old 12-08-2012, 06:05 PM
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If you have a bit of a search on the website you will find a thread which claims to have de-bunked the forces of gravity and explains why the world is flat..........

still scratching my head at this one
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I was walking along minding my own business picking my nails with my flick knife, I have no idea how it got indigent wearing the bowler hat.

Blue Nun wine - are you sure that's not an oxymoron?
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Old 12-08-2012, 10:59 PM
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According to Heston Blumenthal, Blue Nun makes an acceptable sparkly if you pop it through a Soda Stream.

Not sure I'd risk it still.
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Duh... of course it was faked. Here's photographic proof!
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