OSX 10.8 - Mountain Lion is released - Page 2

Octane (Humayun) · #21 27-07-2012, 01:52 PM

Looks like I won't be upgrading just yet, after all.

EOS Utility is incompatible with 10.8. It took Canon almost a year to sort out support for 10.7. This is a must for me while doing portrait shoots (Remote Shooting/Live View).

Also, Steffen, John Siracusa's reviews are awesome. Up to page 7 of this one.

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troypiggo (Troy) · #22 27-07-2012, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Octane

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EOS Utility is incompatible with 10.8. It took Canon almost a year to sort out support for 10.7. This is a must for me while doing portrait shoots (Remote Shooting/Live View).

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Time for you to upgrade to LightRoom 4

Octane (Humayun) · #23 27-07-2012, 05:47 PM

Get out.

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P.S.

Omaroo (Chris Malikoff) · #24 27-07-2012, 05:54 PM

That's a pity Humayun. Just another case of a vendor, even one as large as Canon, failing to get off their proverbial and appear proactive when extremely well-documented and advertised OS changes appear on the horizon. To Canon - get on the beta program already!!!

kustard (Simon) · #25 27-07-2012, 06:17 PM

I'm pretty sure this isn't right. As far as I understand it, Time Machine does backup system files. In fact, when my iMac started to Kernel Panic thanks to some faulty RAM that ended up corrupting the hard drive I was able to restore the whole system to the last backup (the day before the crash) from the external Time Machine HDD I use with no worries.

Now to be honest, this was done when I was still running Snow Leopard so I don't know how an updated Lion (or Mountain Lion) restore would go but I would be surprised if it took you right back to the oldest OS, it would depend on the last time the system files were backed up with TM?

I'm not trying to start any trolling here, just speaking from my experience.

Cheers,
Simon

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Originally Posted by silv

roll back the OS with time machine?
time machine doesn't store the system files. it takes them from the install media you boot from.
so you'd get an old version of the OS.
then you would have to download and install ALL the updates.
you'd also have to re-install many of the applications you had been running because these files, too, do not necessarily get backed up by TM or are rolled back to old versions by the restore process.

What time machine is good for is the backup of your user account. I wouldn't use it for any other purpose than restoring the account or some files of said account.

I have seen people backing up their OS X server with TM - and of course never test that backup solution in a disaster test scenario.
Not a nice site visit when they then have attempted to restore the OS using TM.

So no - do not trust TM when the OS is affected. Or be prepared that you will spend a lot of time getting all your bits and pieces running again on your client machine.

Better use different backup solutions. Like Carbon Copy Cloner, for example.
Might not yet run on 10.8, though

Omaroo (Chris Malikoff) · #26 27-07-2012, 07:11 PM

I didn't register this before either Simon, but you're dead right. TM does indeed back up ALL system files except for those that are dynamic and re-buildable - i.e. indexes and caches. A restore does NOT pull system files from the boot media in preference to those in the backup timeline.

silv (Annette) · #27 27-07-2012, 08:26 PM

oh dear! I confused that behaviour (having to reinstall updates and apps) with the ancient Archive&Install option for os x clients.

apologies!

(I want to stress the correctness of the other thing, though - that TM is no good for server backups as a tool for disaster recovery.)

again, sorry for the mistake.

Steffen · #28 27-07-2012, 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Omaroo

I didn't register this before either Simon, but you're dead right. TM does indeed back up ALL system files except for those that are dynamic and re-buildable - i.e. indexes and caches. A restore does NOT pull system files from the boot media in preference to those in the backup timeline.

Yes, TM only backs up what's unique (and therefore valuable) about your system. The OS and system apps can always be obtained, but your own data and settings are precious and need protecting.

That said, if minimum downtime is required a SuperDuper or CCC backup is the ticket. It allows you to be back up and running within minutes by simply swapping the boot disk. TM restores do take some time.

The beauty about TM is that once set up it just does its thing, and you won't find yourself in a situation where the last backup is 3 months old

Cheers
Steffen.

kustard (Simon) · #29 28-07-2012, 12:40 AM

Silv and Steffan, yeah for a server system I'd probably use something else and the TM restore took a good couple of hours to restore...

I must admit a bit of ignorance when it comes to using a mac as a server though and the best tools for them, all my server experience were mainly *nix and some windows.

Cheers,
Simon

silv (Annette) · #30 28-07-2012, 09:46 AM

hmm,

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The beauty about TM

is the design.
I fell in love with OS X when I first saw that "sweeping into space" when launching a file restore.
sooo pretty!

kustard (Simon) · #31 30-07-2012, 05:14 PM

Well I updated all three iMacs including my production iMac. No probs. I really like the icon "loading" bar when you copy or move items about, it's really handy

Colin_Fraser · #32 01-08-2012, 04:51 PM

I updated my iMac late last night. Everything went fine, without a hitch.
Well maybe one little hitch. Sticky Notes was replaced by Notes and all my Stickies went missing.
Other than that it was a breeze

EDIT: Sticky Notes is still there. Found in in the Launchpad under "Other"

xstream (John) · #33 01-08-2012, 09:19 PM

Updated mine yesterday without a hitch. Only downside is the processor has been running overtime since.

Omaroo (Chris Malikoff) · #34 01-08-2012, 09:25 PM

Were you running Spotlight before John?

xstream (John) · #35 02-08-2012, 10:34 AM

No I wasn't Chris, even now the processor fan is running flat chat.

Steffen · #36 02-08-2012, 10:55 AM

Did you install any fan control software previously?

If not, I'd reset the system management controller (SMC) to its defaults, that usually sorts out mad fans. It's quick and easy, you'll find instructions here, click your way through depending on the type of Mac you've got.

Cheers
Steffen.

Octane (Humayun) · #37 02-08-2012, 11:01 AM

John,

Applications > Utilities and bring up the Activity Monitor and change the drop down to All Processes.

In there you'll see what process is using the most CPU -- that is likely what is running your fans (CPU heating up) and consequently draining your battery.

Once you know what's eating your CPU, then, you can perhaps let us know, or Google the process name and find out if it's a regular problem. In my case, upgrading to 10.7 caused issues with a Citrix Access Gateway service that was running at 99% CPU -- it was a common problem and there was a workaround.

Activity Monitor is a GUI frontend to the UNIX top command.

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silv (Annette) · #38 02-08-2012, 02:28 PM

and if you can't find a solution for that CPU hungry process, yet, create a new administrator user in SystemPreferences/Accounts.
Log out of your normal user (as in Apple icon---> Logout ) and log on as new user.
if the fans behave properly, here, you could continue to work in this account or troubleshoot the old account.
if the fans keep spinning in the new user then it's OS related.