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Old 29-04-2006, 04:47 PM
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Time for my entry Took me ages to get my act together and get my pics processed. I was a bit slow because I didn't really like my results. Gonna try again, but the jetstream doesn't want to agree with me.

These shots were taken on Thursday the 20th of April from 12:20 to 12:40am. My scope is a 10" regular Dobsonian from Bintel. No tracking platform/mount etc.

I took two sets of images, one from a video camera and another from a Sony Digicam. The video camera I use is an old Panasonic mini-dv. I use a home made camera bracket to attach it to my telescope (I use my 32mm eyepiece and 2X barlow lense with the video camera). The digicam is a Song DSC-S60. I had it handheld to my 9mm eyepiece on video mode to capture.

The seeing was around 6-8 out of 10 I believe. The stars had a bit of a twinkle to them, but there was still a nice amount of detail visable on Jup. Through the eyepiece, Jup didn't look like much.. just the disk with the cloud bands. I use a 32mm eyepiece with 2X barlow, so I don't get massive image scale visually just before imaging The image looked fairly nice on the camera screen. The disk, cloud bands and a nice amount of detail (including the GRS). With the 9mm eyepiece before imaging with the digicam, the detail was about the same as shown on the video camera screen, though it looked a little more natural (obviously).

My processing was pretty much the same for both video camera and digicam images. For digicam, I converted the MPEGs ito AVIs using a program called AVI MPEG video converter and ran through Registax. I tried using photoshop to bring out extra colour etc, but it destroyed some of the image quaility so I left them straight from registax. For the video camera, I put the avis onto the computer using WinMX, processed in Registax and had a bit of a touch up in photoshop.

The first three image below are raw images. The others are my processed images. (I actually had more, but had to select the best for the 8 image limit).

Enjoy!
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Old 30-04-2006, 11:48 AM
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Ok heres my latest attempt at Jupiter. Again a slight improvement.

This was taken at about 10pm on the 29th. Transparency was excellent and seeing, I would guess, was reasonable....say 5/10. I used the trusty old 3" wobbletronic but had to cut it back to 1.5" as the image was too bright and over exposed. I can't change the settings on this camera so I had to reduce the light. Considering how little light I'm collecting I'm surprised at the images I'm able to get.

Before imaging I colimated the scope and aligned the finder scope. I have also made several mods to the scope to make it more stable and the finder scope easier to align. I can now use the finder scope to put objects in the FOV with a 3x barlow and 10mm ep - this has cut down on the "crap, I've lost the largest planet again" moments, of which there used to be many.

I got about 30 secs of video from the camera (sony CCD video camera) which gave me 852 frames to stack in Registax. The wavelets were set to 44, 30 & 14.5 for wavelets 6,5 & 4. Didn't do any other fancy stuff (realign with processed, drizzle etc) as it always seems to make the image worse.

On this one I can clearly see the North and South equitorial bands and you can also see darker regions at the poles and something very faint near the equator.

I also tried to use a digital still camera but failed miserably. I couldn't even get jupiter in the FOV! Ving, how do you do this?

Cheers
Brett
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Old 30-04-2006, 12:27 PM
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OK,

managed 1 last throw of the dice last night trying to get all the factors right for a no stacking, no traking, handheld shot single shot.

The sky was crystal clear as I trolley'd the dob from under the back patio out to the backyard for it to cool. We had been having some cool evenings in Brisveags of late, but last night was comparitively warm - so the drop off in temp wasn't severe and I think my optics keep up to the ambient pretty well. Of course when I first vetured outside after 'processing' the kids for bed patches of cloud had rolled in.

I ventured outside every hour or so and managed to get some shots earlier, but the veiw through the eyepiece was a bit ordinary (seeing about 4-5/10) and this showed in the lack of detail visible in those shots. There was still a bit of cloud scattered around so I didn't expect much more than this.

Later I went outside to check on the GRS and the sucker holes had grown to be reasonablly large. The seeing had also settled down well to probably 7/10. I snapped off some shots of the GRS coming around. When I came out to get some shots of the GRS at the meridian the clouds were back and the seeing had gone right away in the sucker holes. When I later came out to check on things the seeing had improved again so I got a few more shots of the GRS in transit.

I stayed up and managed to get Europa's shadow on the planet and Europa about to start its transit. I didn't take as many shots then as I was up on a step ladder and with the dredded dob hole making it harder to move the scope such that the planet would be at the right part of the eyepiece. Anyway of the few shots I got there were two reasonable ones, and one of these appears below.

I have presented the original image that has been cropped and resized a little to fit inside the processing area of registax. Along with this is the final image after processing. The wavelet settings (for those playing at home) for these images are:

1) (GRS before meridian) 1,1,1,13.8,24.6,38.8
2) (GRS after meridian) 1,1,1,10.5,24.6,38.1
3) (Europa shadow enrty) 1,1,1,7.8,19.2,54.9

nothing really special about these wavelet settings accept I only play with the last three (4,5,& 6) and I have them incrementally get bigger.

I have also adjusted the gamma and that seems to help bring out the detail by adding 'weight' to the colours - especially as these are single shots. I have done a screen grab of the gamma setting I used in registax

Overall, I don't think these are any better that the other ones I have entered, just that they are different.

I must say that as a 'visual' guy I have certainly had fun with this comp - just keep that between us though....don't want to ruin my rep
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Old 01-05-2006, 07:03 PM
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Wow guys N' gals! Top work all of you!

I deliberately stayed out of this thread (except the first week) figuring it would be easier to decide.

Not the case! It's harder than I thought..
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Old 01-05-2006, 08:23 PM
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Hey! While I'm in here gazing at your images, Heres something I'd like to share with you.

I started off in imaging with a kodak easyshare handheld at first on my 12.5" newt, & later made an adapter to hold it. No drive on the EQ mount, so I had to work out the drift & time it was going to be in the centre of the FOV because I was shooting at 318X with a 10 second delay timer on the kodak....It took a long time to get any good at it, so I know from experience how hard you guys have worked at this!

Great fun & totally frustrating at times!

Anyhow, heres some of my Jupiter images from back then. Which wasn't that long ago actually..

Both these were 5 or 6 frames stacked. My best 2 out of about 400
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Old 01-05-2006, 08:28 PM
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asimov, you are officially disqualified!! no mention of seeing!!!
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Old 01-05-2006, 08:54 PM
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