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Old 08-03-2012, 10:54 PM
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oh IMF jumping around now, it was high a minute ago, maybe going south?
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Old 08-03-2012, 10:57 PM
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one day, I will understand everything you just typed.

but now i just read in awe

I just read elsewhere that aurorae in north/south poles are complementary of each other.. what is Bz ? does that mean the show is better for guys up north, if the Bz is north ?

will open the googles now.

btw - my mrs lived in northern alberta for 1 year, in 2007-2008. for what was a period of solar minimum, she saw heaps of aurorae...

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i'm not sure i would recommend a big drive for it .. i have the car ready, but i'm not sure what i'll do .. definitely recommend for people like Ken who live in the country to have a look now and then .. the indicators on spaceweather are interesting, the density of solar wind is growing, thats a good sign .. wind speed is still low, you would want solar wind speeds to be up around 600 km/sec or higher, Interplanetary Mag. Field indictors have jumped! but Bz is still north, and thats not good, so polarity of is wrong, we need it to switch south .. at those levels if it was south we would be in business
dont stress, this is just the beginning of solar max, should have 2 or 3 years, with maybe at least a couple of times a year of decent displays for southern mainland viewing ..
i do remember some big X class flares that were fizzes at our latitudes last solar max, due to mixture polarity of earths magnetosphere and polarity of plasma stream/CME negating chance of aurora .. i think WA might have the show better? or worse it could be during our daytime, not the first time that happened
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Old 08-03-2012, 11:03 PM
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hehe i'm no scientist or academic just can read the 'form' as an aurora punter, its really not difficult to read once you are familiar with it, from this webpage

'If the IMF points south -- a condition scientists call "southward Bz" -- then the IMF can partially cancel Earth's magnetic field at the point of contact.
"When Bz is south, that is, opposite Earth's magnetic field, the two fields link up," explains Christopher Russell, a Professor of Geophysics and Space Physics at UCLA. "You can then follow a field line from Earth directly into the solar wind" -- or from the solar wind to Earth. South-pointing Bz's open a door through which energy from the solar wind can reach Earth's atmosphere!

Southward Bz's often herald widespread auroras, triggered by solar wind gusts or coronal mass ejections that are able to inject energy into our planet's magnetosphere.'

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http://spaceweather.com/glossary/imf.html
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Old 08-03-2012, 11:04 PM
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aijii, this might explain Bz for you: http://www.ips.gov.au/Category/Solar...ck%20Angle.php

The more South it goes (or higher in numbers) the better for us

As you can see (at time of this post) the green indicator is north.
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Old 08-03-2012, 11:06 PM
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ahh yeah i was reading the spaceweather link.. posted and then realised you guys had posted as well!

thanks, it makes more sense now.

so... any aurorae yet my lady asked
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Old 08-03-2012, 11:15 PM
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ahh yeah i was reading the spaceweather link.. posted and then realised you guys had posted as well!

thanks, it makes more sense now.

so... any aurorae yet my lady asked
Nah, keep an eye on that Bz graph and check the sky from Midnight onwards.

I just checked outside and there are some huge sucker holes growing here.
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Old 08-03-2012, 11:19 PM
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alright, am going to hit the sack with a couple alarms set.

fingers crossed.
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Old 08-03-2012, 11:44 PM
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SDO is reporting a CME hit 2012-03-08:1100 UTC (that's 2200 AEDT) accompanied with an aurora photo from northern Russia. They are saying "high latitude observers" should be on the lookout.
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Old 08-03-2012, 11:50 PM
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SDO is reporting a CME hit 2012-03-08:1100 UTC (that's 2200 AEDT) accompanied with an aurora photo from northern Russia. They are saying "high latitude observers" should be on the lookout.
All we need now is for some 'Low Latitude' reports
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Old 09-03-2012, 12:08 AM
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-BZ atm.

Certainly an exciting situation. Let's hope some Aussie's get to see it!!!

EDIT: Hey Ken, it was for a minute or two on: http://www.solarham.com/

Me getting excited!!!

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Old 09-03-2012, 12:14 AM
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-BZ atm.

Certainly an exciting situation. Let's hope some Aussie's get to see it!!!
Not according to this live graph (updates every 10 minutes)
http://www.ips.gov.au/Category/Solar...ck%20Angle.php

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Old 09-03-2012, 12:26 AM
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Finger's crossed it does that!

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Old 09-03-2012, 08:35 AM
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It was a clear night but not a thing was seen over southern NZ, as far as I'm aware. The all-sky camera didn't detect any auroral activity. Maybe tonight?
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Old 09-03-2012, 11:09 AM
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well that was a good dummy run for the real thing
I was getting suspicious when the CME took so long to get here, in my experience the faster they get here, and some were in 12 hours last max.! the better the chances, demonstrates a virileness and eagerness not these flaccid puffers .. so maybe was more of a glancing blow then that new fangled predictive modelling showed? maybe i interpreted it wrong? the good old SOHO movies sure looked more glancing blow, need that point blank bullseye factor .. i certainly chased X5s that were duds last time, good way to lose friends lol aurora chasing from southern mainland oz is NOT for the faint hearted
us in the cheap seats appreciate the input from the good seats in NZ BPO
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Old 09-03-2012, 02:18 PM
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Lets hope it stays this way for tonight: http://www.ips.gov.au/Category/Solar...ck%20Angle.php

In the Red and In the south
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Old 09-03-2012, 03:30 PM
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yeah i set my alarms for 12:30, 2am, 4:30, 5:30.

always green. always north. the sucker holes I saw last night before I went to bed were all gone when i got up to check. really very thick clouds.

at least the skies are clear now - hopefully stay that way.

take two
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Old 09-03-2012, 08:26 PM
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Just got this..


SUBJ: IPS AURORA ALERT 0920 UT ON 09 Mar 2012 HIGH LATITUDES
ISSUED AT 0920 UT ON 09 Mar 2012 BY IPS RADIO AND SPACE SERVICES
FROM THE AUSTRALIAN SPACE FORECAST CENTRE


GEOMAGNETIC STORM IN PROGRESS. AURORA MAY BE OBSERVED
DURING LOCAL NIGHT TIME HOURS IN GOOD OBSERVING CONDITIONS
AT HIGH LATITUDES.


...

Bz is just over -ve 10 at the moment... hmm I wonder what it was on the 27th of Jan when that Alex guy captured the aurora from Flinders ?
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Old 09-03-2012, 08:35 PM
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Yep, far bigger tonight than it was last night. We could be in for a good show in southern Victoria and Tasmania
http://helios.swpc.noaa.gov/ovation/South.html

Notice the small fragments of Aurora right next to tassie
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apparently mid-latitude aurora alert, from solarham.com

edit: lol @ the small aurora fragments - is that a mistake do you think ?

are those predictions kept historically ? I want to see what that picture showed for the night that Alex took the vids from flinders!
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Old 09-03-2012, 08:38 PM
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apparently mid-latitude aurora alert, from solarham.com

It's looking very promising for tonight. It is almost total dark here. Almost time to go up the back paddock and set up the camera with Thermos of coffee, snacks, etc.
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