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08-02-2012, 02:42 PM
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Beautiful image Mike, perhaps a bit noisy but I know how faint is the area ^_^
Vela complex remain one of the most charming targets in the southern sky, now it's time for you to plan a mosaic of the whole area, 7x7 perhaps will suffice, you only have other 48 panels to go
Clear Skies
Marco
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08-02-2012, 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by marco
Beautiful image Mike, perhaps a bit noisy but I know how faint is the area ^_^
Vela complex remain one of the most charming targets in the southern sky, now it's time for you to plan a mosaic of the whole area, 7x7 perhaps will suffice, you only have other 48 panels to go
Clear Skies
Marco
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Cheers Marco
Yes, Karel mentioned the slight noise too and as I said to him, the very fine faint tendrils deep in the image are so faint that noise reduction affected them, yes it "looked" a little smoother as a whole but I wasn't comfortable with the idea of losing fine details just for a minor improvement in cosmetic aesthetics  ...I grew up in the age of film photography and this amount of noise wouldn't have been noticed  ...oh well
As for a mozaic...  .....without an observatory..  ...  : scared: 
Cheers for you comments mate.
Mike
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08-02-2012, 07:42 PM
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Big thumbs up from me too for this one Mike. Really interesting frame and clearly some careful planning of the composition. Star colours look good for NB too. So much detail..
Phil
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08-02-2012, 08:44 PM
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Originally Posted by philiphart
Big thumbs up from me too for this one Mike. Really interesting frame and clearly some careful planning of the composition. Star colours look good for NB too. So much detail..
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Hi Phil, thanks so much for that  ... and you are quite right, there is so much in this area I had many options and in fact may very well re visit other areas next time
Mike
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08-02-2012, 10:02 PM
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Yep, a lovely image Mike!
Cheers, Marcus
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08-02-2012, 10:10 PM
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Originally Posted by marc4darkskies
Yep, a lovely image Mike!
Cheers, Marcus
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Thanks Marcus, a bit different and an unusual means to an end for a guy imaging with a 3/4 moon and from the middle of a coastal city
Mike
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09-02-2012, 02:34 AM
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A fantastic image Mike.
The filaments are amazing
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09-02-2012, 09:22 AM
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A fantastic image Mike.
The filaments are amazing
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Thanks Rico, yeh the filaments are craaaazzzzy, here they are in negative
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09-02-2012, 07:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Moon
Really awesome. I love everything about this image.
How? I really dislike how pbase hosts these big images. When you click on the image, it returns to the previous menu, rather than just a direct link to the raw jpg file. In Chrome I can use the control+mouse scroll wheel to resize - but it doesn't look too good on my little laptop.
This time I viewed it an iMac which is 27" 2560 x 1440.
In Chrome you can right click -> open image in new tab and let the browser resize it. I think this is the best way to enjoy these images - really lets you take it all in.
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Picasa viewer is a nice intuitive program for viewing any pic, but particularly huge astro pics I find. The rest of the screen is dimmed, the picture is auto-zoomed, and you can intuitively zoom in and pan around with the mouse and mousewheel. You have to save the image before you can open that way, but worth it for exploring a top class image I reckon if download is allowed.
Bit like Zoomify in realtime time, but faster and smoother.
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09-02-2012, 08:49 PM
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Picasa viewer is a nice intuitive program for viewing any pic, but particularly huge astro pics I find. The rest of the screen is dimmed, the picture is auto-zoomed, and you can intuitively zoom in and pan around with the mouse and mousewheel. You have to save the image before you can open that way, but worth it for exploring a top class image I reckon if download is allowed.
Bit like Zoomify in realtime time, but faster and smoother.
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Yeh maybe, although I have found Picasa clumsy  probably just what you get used too I recon. The problem is that most viewers are impatient, there are so many images to look at in forums and other places these days, if it isn't easy people will just give up, I am sure I have lost many viewers as a result. I get the impression that many people just open an image quickly look at it for a few seconds and then a few comment based on that experience.
Not sure what the perfect solution is? Personally I like to really look at images so when people post a large option ie bigger than my 22" screen, it is great and I usually look at it at that size first then shrink it in my browser to fit nicely on my screen - this is the best way to appreciate most images but I know many won't wait or be bothered with this. I really don't like zoomify at all, it is slow and clumsy and doesn't allow full appreciation of an image, I prefer to download a large jpeg if the option is there - like Ken Crawford provides and look at that in my picture viewer or where ever...but that takes time.
This is why I offer a number of crops and framings so hopefully there is something that appeals  my image view counts show that the first image link in the post text is the image most look at and lots don't bother with the others anyway but they are there for the inquisitive amongst you
Mike
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09-02-2012, 10:26 PM
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Actually I should have explained more clearly using Picasa is an exception rather than the rule when I'm really in "image appreciation mode". One step short of throwing it into PS or Pixinsight to REALLY have a gawk at things. You obviously wouldn't be bothered downloading each image while browsing around then opening with separate software.
It does bug me a bit how image sizes are handled in PBase, but realistically you've got a wonderful setup going there Mike - particularly like your album concept - too often it's easy to get fixated on a single "perfectly processed image" (if such a thing is possible  ) when a number of crops of key features is much more workable. Particularly with the AG12 and SAO sensor you're using....
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09-02-2012, 11:55 PM
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Originally Posted by RobF
It does bug me a bit how image sizes are handled in PBase, but realistically you've got a wonderful setup going there Mike - particularly like your album concept - too often it's easy to get fixated on a single "perfectly processed image" (if such a thing is possible  ) when a number of crops of key features is much more workable. Particularly with the AG12 and SAO sensor you're using....
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Oh it's good to have a good base image but call me crazy, call me weird, there are just so many facets to most images that I feel it a shame to only present the one at the one size, besides, creates some interest I hope ...and maybe the occasional smile even
Mike
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10-02-2012, 11:45 PM
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Another amazing photo Mike.
I love your rendition...beautiful colours.
Thanks.
Ross.
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13-02-2012, 11:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Ross G
Another amazing photo Mike.
I love your rendition...beautiful colours.
Thanks.
Ross.
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Thanks so much Rossco, the RGB look is ok but narrow band just adds something  I am partial to the negative version myself, as someone else commented on my web site, it reminds me of a Schmidt plate too - for me the UK Schmidt but that person the Palomar - a northern hemisphere person I guess?
Mike
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13-02-2012, 08:29 PM
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Love reflection Nebs !
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Ah yes, this is very very nice Migel!
Great to have NB in LP areas hey.
Love these super nova remnants... and the colours and fine structure you've obtained are damn fine my man
Been I think a pretty horrid weather pattern for most of the country so lets hope things improve soon...
Cause I want to see more from the wonderful Agie
All the best
Rich
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13-02-2012, 09:33 PM
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Ah yes, this is very very nice Migel!
Great to have NB in LP areas hey.
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Cheers Ricki Dicki yes NB is a god send at times
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Love these super nova remnants... and the colours and fine structure you've obtained are damn fine my man
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Yes I love the negative version actually, it reminds me of a Schmidt plate
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Been I think a pretty horrid weather pattern for most of the country so lets hope things improve soon... 
Cause I want to see more from the wonderful Agie 
All the best
Rich
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LOL you and me both
Mike
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