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Old 23-06-2011, 06:20 PM
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NGC 5128 described - "in a nutshell"

Here is a short, but very good, summary of the nature and properties of NGC 5128.
This is a quotation taken from the reference: E.W. Peng et al., 2002, AJ, 124, 3144

NGC 5128 is the nearest easily observable giant elliptical galaxy and is the prototype for a post-merger elliptical galaxy. The prominent central rotating disk of gas and dust, optical shells, and HI shells, all point to a merger event within the last gigayear. It is also a prototype Fanaroff-Riley Class I radio galaxy, with a radio jet driven by an active galactic nucleus (AGN) believed to be inducing star formation in the northeast halo region. While NGC 5128 appears to be a uniquely complex system, it is only because of its proximity that we are able to discern and study features that are likely to be common in more distant galaxies.
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Have I understood this correctly.. the jet is caused by an excess of matter that the black hold can't swallow up? This jet being called a Quasar?

Look what I found from Chandra (regarding that jet) http:///chandra.harvard.edu/photo/2003/cenajet/cenajet_hand.html

And this image by Spitzer in infra-red.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:CentaurusA3.jpg
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Old 24-06-2011, 12:08 AM
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Yoohooo Carl...

Please can you answer the above question for me regarding Cent. A's jet?
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For a further discussion about the blue/ultraviolet emitting knots associated with the plasma jet of NGC 5128, see my recent post in the Deep Space forum under the heading "Centaurus A with Halpha"

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Yoohooo Carl...

Please can you answer the above question for me regarding Cent. A's jet?
Basically, you're correct. Some of the material which gets caught around the BH is funneled by the extreme rotation of the accretion disk around the hole, plus the enormous magnetic fields present, and along with other materials surrounding the hole but not in the disk, out along the rotational/magnetic field axis of the hole. That material is then accelerated out by the poles of the field into the jets you see. It's akin to firing a bullet out of a shotgun or a particle accelerator accelerating charged particles. Most of the gases are completely ionised, so you get a soup of electrons, ionised atoms and other particles getting shot out at near light speed from both ends of the hole. All that material, especially the electrons, interacts with the surrounding ISM it penetrates into and that helps to create the jets you see.

That's the simple explanation

I'll answer the rest of the question when I get back, OK

Well, I'm back now (5:25pm).....

Quasars are a type of active galactic nuclei (AGN). Not all AGN's are quasars, although some of the mechanisms which generate quasar activity are also present in other types of AGN's. Quasar activity becomes present in galactic nuclei when a lot of material is present in the central regions of galaxies that the central BH of those galaxies can chew up. Your average quasar produces about 10^40 joules/sec (watts) of energy from devouring the materials surrounding it, in terms of constant luminosity. That's the equivalent of it converting to energy of about 600 Earths per minute or 10 solar masses/year.

The central region of Cen A, though, is not a quasar. The amount of energy being released is several orders of magnitude too small to have been generated by a quasar at the centre of the galaxy. It's nowhere near bright enough, for a start. Even though the mechanism which is driving the activity is the same (a supermassive BH), Cen A is a radio galaxy. Much of the energy coming from the galaxy is in radio and x-ray emissions from the radio lobes at and near the ends of the jets coming from its nucleus.

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Wow, I could stare at images like this forever. Thanks for posting.
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There's an interesting article on Cent A in the Fin Review of all places today. For a moment I thought Mike had won the bankers over, but its a pic from the Capella observatory (and lots of talk about Xray and microwave work and interferometry on the central supermassive black hole)

(Damn, thanks to my wife I can't say that now without that song from Twilight running through my head....)
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What an amazing picture Mike. And what an honor!!!
Why, you must have been tickled pink to have a large poster of your photo at that conference.

Thanks so much for that link with all those amazing posters of Centaurus A. I very much enjoyed looking through them all.
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thanks for directing me to this thread Suzy and i can understand your love of Centaurus A. Total kudos to you Mike, those pics are just breathtaking.
Thanks girls, yes it was an honour indeed to have my shot recognied as the diffinitive visible light optical shot from the 1000's available around the world taken from every observatory imaginable..rather astonishing really..let me just bang my head on the desk one more time to see if it's real..bang, bang...yep, still real

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There's an interesting article on Cent A in the Fin Review of all places today. For a moment I thought Mike had won the bankers over, but its a pic from the Capella observatory (and lots of talk about Xray and microwave work and interferometry on the central supermassive black hole)
Actually...I have appeared in the Fin Review.. twice...both times in a scary photo of me straining under the load of lifting big stone balls (no not mine) ...

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Hi Carl,

You snuck in the rest of your post in edit. I was waiting..and waiting.. then just decided to re-read what you said, and there it was, more information added.

You've explained it really well and I understand so much better now.

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..let me just bang my head on the desk one more time to see if it's real..bang, bang...yep, still real
Not sure what to offer you.. a bandaid, an Asprin, or a full strength beer.
You're a funny guy, Mike!
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The Deepest View Ever of Centaurus A


Words fail me!

Just look at those jets been thrown out by the super massive black hole!



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"...... This image, created from over 50 hours of exposure time by the European Southern Observatory's 2.2-meter MPG/ESO telescope at its La Silla Observatory in Chile, is the deepest view ever into Centaurus A. ..."

"..... In the upper left portion of the image a line of bright purple and blue points can be seen; this is the result of a jet that's being shot out from the black hole at the elliptical galaxy's center......."
http://news.discovery.com/space/big-...so-120518.html
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Just look at that close up image! Imagine another life form looking up into their night sky and seeing their own set of unique DSOs!
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Here's a pic of Centaurus A showing the supernova 1986g!!!
http://www.aao.gov.au/images/captions/aat052.html

And now look here for a negative image of it showing all that galactic cirrus surrounding it!
Hover the mouse over the pic.
http://www.aao.gov.au/images/deep_html/n5128_d.html

Centaurus A widefield.
http://www.aao.gov.au/images/captions/uks032.html


All pictures were taken by David Malin from the Australian Astronomical Observatory (ASO).
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