Osama Bin Laden dead - Page 2

Bassnut (Fred) · #21 02-05-2011, 07:47 PM

He deserved it, he attacked the US, but so long as the US continuoues bombing the crap out of those that dont agree with the American dream, there will be plenty more to replace him.

casstony · #22 02-05-2011, 07:55 PM

It's good that he's gone but some thought should go into how these monsters are created. Some powerful people kill many more innocents with the stroke of a pen.

White Rabbit · #23 02-05-2011, 08:17 PM

Well, it was never going to happen any other way. If they found him, there is no way they were letting him walk out of the room alive. Can you imagine the media circus that would ensue with an Bin Laden trial? If would have given him a platform beyond his wildest dreams and he would have called to arms thousands, not to say that his death wont but the ramifications of the him standing trial are even more scary.

It's a funny thing indeed to be glad that someone has died, it's an unnatural thought I think. Regardless of the crimes he comited "glad or happy" feel somewhat hollow. Then again those who live by the sword...

Draconis (Mick) · #24 02-05-2011, 08:35 PM

Reports that he has been buried at sea so quickly (i understand the cultural requirements) will certainly add to the conspiracy theories. Its not hard to see how people might think it is not beyond the realms of possibility he was not actually killed but captured and has been whisked to a prison in the US never to be seen again..it's already started looking at Twitter and will just get bigger and bigger. I wonder if they will release some images of the body or some other evidence of Bin Laden's death to nip the conspiracy rumours in the bud?

tlgerdes (Trevor) · #25 02-05-2011, 09:10 PM

He's not dead, he is working at the independant service station near the mosque in Lakemba. Saw him there last night, honest.

Brian W (Brian) · #26 02-05-2011, 09:35 PM

My wife is currently in a low intensity war zone in the southern Philippines where she is teaching Peace and Development. I sincerely hope this does not notch up the danger.
Brian

strongmanmike (Michael) · #27 02-05-2011, 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by [1ponders]

Jason. It is a sad day when we celebrate the death of someone. No matter who they were or how bad they were. Life should be celebrated, not violent death. And we will continue to have violent death in this manner as long as it is celebrated. Making a martyr if you will, regardless of the "side".

Let him rest in peace. He did some terrible things and we all wish they didn't happen, but he is gone and hopefully (wishful) his philosophies will die with him.

I agree with you Paul, I am mostly a Gillard supporter but I didn't like those words at all either, coupled with the pathetic displays of perocial jubilation in the US that are plastering our TV's now, I couldn't help but think it shows us (especially those in the US) as really no better than the terrorists really after all how many US and other troups have been killed, maimed and injured to "acheieve" this litle bit of so called success, does it really warrant such an overt level of jubilation?

Mike

Kevnool (Kev) · #28 02-05-2011, 09:49 PM

Bout time----Better late than never.
Need to see a pic tho to prove to myself that this has happened

danielsun · #29 02-05-2011, 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Draconis

Reports that he has been buried at sea so quickly (i understand the cultural requirements) will certainly add to the conspiracy theories. Its not hard to see how people might think it is not beyond the realms of possibility he was not actually killed but captured and has been whisked to a prison in the US never to be seen again..it's already started looking at Twitter and will just get bigger and bigger. I wonder if they will release some images of the body or some other evidence of Bin Laden's death to nip the conspiracy rumours in the bud?

Ch9 news tonight actually showed a photo of his dead body.

DavidU (Dave) · #30 02-05-2011, 09:59 PM

I haven't seen that one.

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Originally Posted by danielsun

Ch9 news tonight actually showed a photo of his dead body.

Kevnool (Kev) · #31 02-05-2011, 10:17 PM

Let me say this then.

The stars have truely aligned.

Benno18 (Ben) · #32 02-05-2011, 11:02 PM

At least Obama didnt put himself on an aircraft carrier with a big 'VICTORY' sign behind him.
lesson learned with that one.

Waxing_Gibbous (Peter) · #33 02-05-2011, 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Bassnut

He deserved it, he attacked the US, but so long as the US continuoues bombing the crap out of those that dont agree with the American dream, there will be plenty more to replace him.

Too true.
Successive US governments have a long history of supporting unpleasant regimes that cater to "American Interests". Its manifest hypocrisy in back-stopping governments that trample the human rights it so publically reveres, (El Salvador, Israel, Indonesia, etc. etc.) and their refusal to even acknowledge their mistakes, has led to hundreds of thousands of potential "terrorists" who see no other way to emancipation.

As someone who had to put up the IRA for 22 years, I have no sympathy for those who perform these acts, but equally I can empathise with the circumstances that lead them down that path.

Don't get me wrong. I'm not sorry bin Laden is dead. I just don't think that celebrating the fact is either politically productive or seemly.

ballaratdragons (Ken) · #34 02-05-2011, 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by danielsun

Ch9 news tonight actually showed a photo of his dead body.

That is NOT a real photo of Osama bin Laden.
It is a Photoshopped image that did the rounds on the internet about 2 years ago.

The US Naval Office, CNN and FoxNews have already announced this to everyone to prevent confusion, and they showed the fake one (the one on channel nine).
Yet 1 hour after the announcement, Channel Nine still showed the fake image.
The Old fake image can be found in several old Osama conspiracy websites.

US Navy spokesperson said the Navy did take many photographs and when the public hysteria settles down they will allow one to be shown to the public.

I congratulate Barrack Obama for the way he presented the news to the world.
He did not brag, he wasn't smug about it. He just stated the fact that Osama bin Laden is Dead. Then went on to say how he was killed.
But he didn't do a 'Bush' and glorify how good he is that Osama was killed on 'his watch'.

I also hope this puts an end to the harrassment of other Muslims and Arab people.
Time will tell.

Brian W (Brian) · #35 03-05-2011, 12:02 AM

Harassment of Muslims end, probably not. Travel in the Philippines is difficult and usually overcrowded.

When my wife travels and she gets an urge to be alone she simply dons a Muslim head scarf. No one sits at her table in an eatery, and rarely will anyone sit beside her on a bus or a boat.

Of course this doesn't work in Muslim areas but it sure is affective in the Christian areas.
Brian

ballaratdragons (Ken) · #36 03-05-2011, 12:17 AM

It is interesting listening to the account of how they found Osama.

US Intelligence was given tip-offs by Pakistani Government as to the general area,
then they just used common sense from then on.

The obvious give-aways:
- The compound is a multi-million dollar 3 storey Mansion owned by 2 unemployed men suspected to be connected to Al-Quaida
- It is the only house in the area with no telephone or internet connected (Osama refused to have either connected at any location he would be at)
- It is the only building in the area with 2 defensive walls built around it. An outer wall and an inner wall. Just like a Prison.

Individually, suspect.
Add all 3 together and it was obvious.

Jeffkop (Jeff) · #37 03-05-2011, 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by White Rabbit

Well, it was never going to happen any other way. If they found him, there is no way they were letting him walk out of the room alive. Can you imagine the media circus that would ensue with an Bin Laden trial? If would have given him a platform beyond his wildest dreams and he would have called to arms thousands, not to say that his death wont but the ramifications of the him standing trial are even more scary.

Yep ... 100% right ... dead people dont have near as many rites as live ones ... it was never a dead OR alive situation but rather dead or vapourized.

JohnH · #38 03-05-2011, 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by koputai

I'm sorry, but no one, including our Prime Minister, has the right to "welcome the death of Osama Bin Laden" on my behalf.

This killing will do nothing but harm to the prospect of peace in the World.

Jason.

I am sorry you feel that way because that is exactly what the PM is entitled to do - represent Australia.

You can, of course, express opinions here that are counter to hers without fear of reprisals, unless you count this comment benefitting as you do from the protection aforded you by living in a democratic nation.

As for peace in the world not being advanced by this monsters death are you seriously suggesting it would be better if he continued to live and spout poison into the ears of the poor, ignorant and children and use them to bring death to the innocent?

Really!

casstony · #39 03-05-2011, 09:25 AM

While I'm against capital punishment in general I think it's ok to suspend the inner debate while returning mass murderers to the soil; such people are too dangerous to be allowed to live.

strongmanmike (Michael) · #40 03-05-2011, 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Brian W

Of course this doesn't work in Muslim areas but it sure is affective in the Christian areas.
Brian

Of course it does, self proclaimed Christians often demonstrate their understanding of their saviors teachings in such ways..I can just see it now, sermon on the mount and Jesus burning a copy of the Koran