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Old 08-04-2011, 01:06 PM
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i read somewhere .... 'the invisible and the non-existent often look very much alike'.

this comment does not imply a foot in either camp by the way...

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Old 09-04-2011, 01:46 PM
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Dark "anything" in physics means this = "we actually don't know what we've found, we're just speculating as to what it is and we really don't have a clue as to what we're on about", in spite of what they maybe telling you to the contrary. In all honesty, they don't know what they're really finding or looking at. If they did, there wouldn't be so much speculation being bandied about and they'd have a better theoretical handle on what's there (or not there, as the case may be).
Yeah I know Carl but I can't really be bothered with this stuff anymore.

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Old 09-04-2011, 02:59 PM
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Yeah I know Carl but I can't really be bothered with this stuff anymore.

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It is frustrating trying to figure out what's for real or not, but the best way to approach this, or anything else in science, is to have an open mind but still be critical of what's being said until they have sufficient evidence to back up their claims...or at least a reasonably sound explanation of what's happening. It doesn't have to be the maxim "extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence"...I've never liked nor subscribed to that nonsense and it's rather hypocritical of scientists to run that by anyone else, considering that 90% of their own "facts" would fall by the wayside if they applied it to their own study areas. All it requires is for there to be the evidence that, within reasonable doubt, points to the veracity of the processes occurring/observations that are made.
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Old 09-04-2011, 10:49 PM
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Absolutely Carl. Seems new technology has allowed them to see a big pile of brown dwarfs they never knew about.....how much more is out there that we cannot detect??? A theory is okay but to push it as the only plausible explaination is just bad science in my books especially when you have absolutely nothing as evidence. I guess we will have to wait and see.

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