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Old 28-03-2011, 11:07 AM
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Rolf, yes the -38 from ambient is spot on. It is warm nights that are the killer. Temperatures of 26 degrees of a night time mean that -15C is possible but you need the water cooling to keep a good head room. In your neck of the woods it would be ok most of the time and you might even be able to achieve -20C on your warm nights.
Thanks for your reply Paul, that's what I thought. Looking forward to getting the QSI
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Old 28-03-2011, 02:18 PM
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Do you find it has much noise at -15C? I would have thought even at that "relatively warm temperature" it would still be fairly clean. I think you've been spoilt Paul. Some of my earlier cameras were a lot noisier than that.

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Old 28-03-2011, 05:55 PM
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I would say that there appears to be a relative increase in noise from -20 to -15C. I guess the noise really starts to become more noticable the more one stretches the data. Fainter objects will show the noise more given the same length of exposure as a brighter object. Yes I have probably been spoilt but I do note Greg that you are using a camera with -30C cooling now too. I have seen subs taken with an FLI and the noise comparison between -15 and -30 was appreciable. I am sure you wouldn't want to swap for a month?
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Old 28-03-2011, 05:58 PM
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LOL, yes I guess I am the one spoilt. I don't like it when I can't get -35C in the 16803 and have to settle for -30C! The Microline does -40 most times and -35 almost all the time. It is the zone for CCDs. Beyond -40 there is probably hardly any noticeable gain but -30 to -40 is pretty clean.

Still I am sure your QSI is still very clean compared to older CCD cameras around.

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Old 28-03-2011, 06:21 PM
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Still I am sure your QSI is still very clean compared to older CCD cameras around.

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Without a doubt Greg. Still I am pushing harder and harder all the time now with this camera as I cannot really afford to upgrade.
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Old 28-03-2011, 06:54 PM
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That's an excellent image for a quickie Paul. Mind you the DSLR image isn't real shabby either.

The detail in the dust lane of the QSI image is extraordinary. Do I detect some "Ken Crawford processing"?

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Old 28-03-2011, 07:24 PM
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Do I detect some "Ken Crawford processing"?

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You know it mate. Just like I showed you at camp.
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Old 28-03-2011, 07:36 PM
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That is really nice, Paul. I so long for long focal length. Will have to wait many years before I can purchase something nice, I suspect. Bugger!

Excellent work. I don't mind the noise at all, to be honest. I try to look at things from an aesthetic point of view rather than technical. That's the artist in me!

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Old 28-03-2011, 09:16 PM
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Very nice indeed! Colour detail FOV great!
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Old 28-03-2011, 09:47 PM
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Thanks guys, appreciate the comments.

H, I know of a 8RC that will be coming up for sale soon with a proven track record. It will not be too expensive from what I understand. Might pay to keep an eye out.
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Old 28-03-2011, 10:00 PM
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Magic Paul .... i like so much details and color ... i think with right integration you'll kep a reference one ...

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Old 28-03-2011, 11:16 PM
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OK, so shoot me, but i much prefer the DSLR image.

To me the QSI image looks washed out and pale.
It certainly isn't a WOW! image.

Whereas the DSLR image has impact! Beautiful colour, depth, contrast, and it's a 'pretty' picture as well.
It IS a WOW! image.

That's how I see them
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