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Old 18-03-2011, 09:23 AM
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One of the problems I have is that I use the iPad for most posts, unfortunately it changes some words while I type fast..eg Televue always gets changed to Televise. And I have to go back & correct it....sometimes I get frustrated and can't be bothered going back to fix up all the corrections it has made for me
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Old 18-03-2011, 09:33 AM
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The funniest is when people who complain about poor spelling and grammar, commit the same CRIME they are posting about. I love it!

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Old 18-03-2011, 09:38 AM
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From my perspective, spelling and grammatical errors probably rate amongst the least of our worries here at IIS.

Where are those thought Police when ya need 'em ?

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Old 18-03-2011, 09:49 AM
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I too get annoyed by poor spelling and grammar but there is little that can be done about it. I am not the best when it comes to spelling and grammar and a dyslexic keyboard that seems to interchange letters as I type does not help matters.

I suppose I am one of the better spellers however because spelling and grammar were very important parts of early schooling and you got punishment for errors. These language basics need to be learnt at an early age for best results and as spelling and grammar became unimportant to schooling some years ago it is no wonder we have such poor spelling and grammar today.

As a moderator on the Unwired forum I do make corrections to obvious spelling errors (and remove nasty words) but you can't make some corrections without changing the meaning of a post.

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Old 18-03-2011, 10:26 AM
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Hmm.. Touchy subject!

A typo is common and I make them all the time. The same typo repeated in a sentance or paragraph is no longer a typo but possibly a genuine sense that the word has been spelt correctly because that is how one has always spelled it and unless someone else tells one otherwise, one will never know the difference.

Yes it could also be dyslexia and for those affected may I suggest the Irlen Dyslexia Centre. My son has a form of dyslexia which has been greatly helped by wearing coloured glasses. Forgive me though if you have already done so and still suffer. I meant no disrespect.

Any critism offered here is constructive and I'm sure anyone with English as a second language would welcome such feedback. My country of origin is a non english speaking country but I now live here and although English was my least favourite subject in school I have always strived to improve my writing and speaking skills. If I'm not sure of a word, I'll look it up in a dictionary for both spelling and meaning.

My initial post was to merely ask people to take a little more time to correct significant spelling errors in both title and message body that would assist when searching through the forum. The reason I also say message body is that some titles are simply meaningless, like "Look at this", "Another question" etc. Significant words are those which directly refer to the topic of the thread.

Note I also mentioned in my initial post that I was not concerned about the poor use of grammar but this is from the standpoint that it generally will not affect a search whereas incorrect spelling will. You may have noticed in my first paragpraph I used spelt and spelled. Perhaps someone with a better understanding of correct grammar usage can advise me which is correct?

Thanks again for understanding.
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Old 18-03-2011, 10:45 AM
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Touchy subject indeed.
I had my say and am over it now.
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Old 18-03-2011, 12:40 PM
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Sum websites have grammer and lspel sheckerc build into them thus enabling pists like mine to be checkled beforehand

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Old 18-03-2011, 05:40 PM
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You may have noticed in my first paragpraph I used spelt and spelled. Perhaps someone with a better understanding of correct grammar usage can advise me which is correct?
Both are. One is more common in British English, the other in American English. "The USA and the UK. Two countries separated by a common language."

"paragpraph" however is wrong, by one typo.

I think I also have several of Barry's dyslectic keyboards. About one per computer. This forces me to proof read everything before clicking "Submit Reply", and "Preview Message" is a good idea too. I just had to edit another post twice for silly typos I had missed after even doing both of those.

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Old 18-03-2011, 05:48 PM
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Some people on the forum don't have English as their first language.
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Old 18-03-2011, 05:56 PM
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I think I also have several of Barry's dyslectic keyboards. About one per computer. This forces me to proof read everything before clicking "Submit Reply", and "Preview Message" is a good idea too. I just had to edit another post twice for silly typos I had missed after even doing both of those.
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Old 18-03-2011, 06:00 PM
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And sometimes your fingers end up with a life of their own. The message getting garbled somewhere between the brain and the keyboard.
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Old 18-03-2011, 06:34 PM
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my personal peeve is the grandiose writer, those who , for some unknown reason, need to use words no one understands. I know people are not instructed to write in this fashion but some seem to think the use of these words makes them more important. If a writer gets his point across and its not in SMS speak Im fine with it, if I see words similar to "antidisestablishmentarianism"" I believe the writer to be an idiot
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Old 18-03-2011, 07:02 PM
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I agree with your first post on this thread Jeanette.
The English language is hard enough, especially when so many words have different meanings and spelt the same (or not the same). Unfortunately, it seems grammar is not taught at school like it used to be.
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Old 18-03-2011, 07:04 PM
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is this whole thing over me spelling nagler (neglar). OMG people my spelling sucks but im a nice guy just the same. I will try to use the spell check more. Oh, if its not about me never mind>>>>>
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Old 18-03-2011, 07:20 PM
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is this whole thing over me spelling nagler (neglar). OMG people my spelling sucks but im a nice guy just the same. I will try to use the spell check more. Oh, if its not about me never mind>>>>>
It wasn't

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Old 18-03-2011, 07:29 PM
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Because of the derivation of words in the english language stolen from the rest of the world's languages, context is a very important part of suitable spelling (notice I said suitable not correct).

Let us take the example already put forward "spelt" this normally refers to the sequence of letters in a word and how they are put together. But if you are in the agriculture field it can mean something entirely different. It is a kind of wheat anciently cultivated.

and the other spelling:

"Spelled" this is normally interpreted also as the order of letters in a word, but it can also refer to an animal put out to rest as being spelled or if you are into the supernatural something that has been done to someone or something, usually adverse.

English is a difficult language. Especially if you come from a society that has a more ordered form of language.

Barry

PS1 my dyslectic keyboard had a real field day in this post. I had to write about 25% of the words a second time.

PS2 I take great delight in contradicting my "Word" spell checker with words like centre, neighbour, colour etc.
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Old 18-03-2011, 07:46 PM
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Thumbs up Don't forget Google ...

Just a tip for searching here on IceInspace.

Apart from IceInSpace's own "Search" feature, consider using Google.
For example, Barry's post previous to this one was made only 12 minutes earlier to when I type now.

Yet if I go to Google and type : iceinspace derivation
I already get Barry's Post as first hit.
In fact, if I make a typo and type: iceinspace derevation
Google reports "Showing results for iceinspace derivation" and it still shows Barry's post.

As one more example, try typing iceinspace negler.

Google appears to be currently crawling IceInSpace so regularly that new posts typically can be
found in a search on it within minutes of them appearing on IceInSpace. Plus it cuts some slack
with regards spelling and offers close matching alternatives.
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Old 18-03-2011, 07:56 PM
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Just a tip for searching here on IceInspace.

Apart from IceInSpace's own "Search" feature, consider using Google.
For example, Barry's post previous to this one was made only 12 minutes earlier to when I type now.

Yet if I go to Google and type : iceinspace derivation
I already get Barry's Post as first hit.
In fact, if I make a typo and type: iceinspace derevation
Google reports "Showing results for iceinspace derivation" and it still shows Barry's post.

As one more example, try typing iceinspace negler.

Google appears to be currently crawling IceInSpace so regularly that new posts typically can be
found in a search on it within minutes of them appearing on IceInSpace. Plus it cuts some slack
with regards spelling and offers close matching alternatives.
Disturbing isn't it how big brother watches over us.

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Old 18-03-2011, 08:00 PM
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Hi,

Yes, if you Google yourself by your username , you will get all sorts of interesting hits, some not really you !

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Old 18-03-2011, 08:01 PM
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Not this again , Be very careful what you say folks as there are a million reasons why people may make errors. For all you know the poster may be using a stick in their mouth to type the post whilst bound to a wheelchair. If you are so concerned about it the best you can do is ensure your own posts never contain errors (yet to see anyone achieve that). Do not discourage others from posting by trying to enforce unrealistic standards based on your own experience of life. Last time this came up a lot of people stopped contributing and that is a real shame. I think the general population needs to understand that learning disabilities are real and affect a large number of people. As an Educator I often have up to 50% of my students in any given class unable to attain basic standards through no fault of their own. They are made to feel inadequate throughout their schooling, it would be cruel to do the same here.


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