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Old 07-02-2011, 04:33 PM
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I never mentioned anything about being preached to but there has to be someone incharge we have someone incharge in another state but there is still local representatives who step up and take on the job and there are people who attack them but are not willing to do it themselves. All people need to have a global outlook and that will not happen until people realise that we are all dependant on everyone If even one person doesn't understand this it makes the future less certain but I believe that society is evolving just as humanity is for the better. I only said that my first thoughts are for Earth and it's people like you said think globally If I love my country I need to love the planet and all people in it, it is only when all people in the world have enough to eat and a place to live that anyone can feel safe anywhere. No-one should be made to drink the water but it is everyone's responsibility to show where the good water is. Not to hold their heads under it that is what is wrong with the world people wanting everyone to think the same way they do.
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Old 07-02-2011, 05:22 PM
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This reminded me of a Joke

There is an aussie and a pom sitting in a boat in the Whitsunday Islands fishing and having a great time looking out over the beautiful Whitehaven beach beautiful weather with lovely ladies swiming on the beach and the Pom looks over at the Aussie and starts shaking his head and laughing and the Aussie say's what are you on about. When the Pom can finally talk he say's I was just sitting here marvelling at the weather the fish and great scenery and I remembered we Pom's sent you Aussies here as a "PUNISHMENT"
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Old 07-02-2011, 10:26 PM
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Yep well after watching all that stuff that is going on in Egypt im very greatful that i live in OZ
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Old 07-02-2011, 11:32 PM
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You only have to a little OS travel to be happy about being Australian. But everyone needs to remember it didn't happen by accident, Be thankful for our British heritage (even if your a republican like me) and the Men and Women who devoted their lives to make it a better place. As someone has noted a nationalist is someone who thinks their Country is the best a patriot is someone who wants to make it better.
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If we dont have a sense of patriotism and nationalistic pride, then tomorrow we will belong to some other county who does.
Well Trevor,

when the 'forces that be' decide that that is going to happen, there'll be precious little that we can do about it - unfortunately
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Old 08-02-2011, 07:24 AM
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What no-one has a sense of humour or was the joke that bad that it can't distract from a direction that I know the original poster doesn't want the thread to go. Come on lets keep things in perspective and enjoy the discussion
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Old 08-02-2011, 12:53 PM
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Liked your joke, just jave a thing against people called Warren.

I have a brother by that name
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Old 08-02-2011, 01:16 PM
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Liked your joke, just jave a thing against people called Warren.

I have a brother by that name
Is that something to do with the meaning of Warren in relation to rabbits
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Old 08-02-2011, 02:13 PM
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This also reminds me of the enourmous size of our country as well as the extremes of temperature and weather.
I'm typing this from Cockle Creek in Tasmania which is as far south as the road goes in Australia. A sign reminds me that I'm closer to Antarctica than I am to Carins.
While I'm reading about floods in Victoria, bushfires in Western Australia and a week of 35+ degree days in Sydney, it's been a chilly 5 degrees overnight.

Who'd live in any other country?
Gosh Geoff, very well said! Really makes one stop and think.

This thread has been full of great responses. A couple I got a bit worried about, Craig really made me stop and think with his well written post, and I have to thank Warren on a fabulous job in steering this thread into a constructive discussion.
Thank you all for your input.

Warren, your joke was funny , thankyou. I just love a bit of light hearted humour in a thread as it makes more people at ease to post. At the time I didn't want to respond with just a laughing emoticon (I try not to spam ), so instead wanted to incorporate my response into my post here.

Primarily, my motive was for you'll to read this poem of course, purely because it's so Australian and so moving. Secondly, I was curious about the weather patterns we have today- if the media were driving it towards global warming, or is it in fact a natural occurence. I perceived the later to be the case in the poem after reading it. I was just looking for some good old constructive input. And you'll behaved yourselves well .

I agree with many on this thread, we are the lucky country and there is no other place I'd rather be. I guess in particular, if you've travelled the world or immigrated as I have, it makes one quite aware of that.

A few months back, hubby, my daughter and myself did a trip to Warwick. And none of us could believe (we've never seen anything like that before) how the mountain ranges were absolute saphire blue. The contrast was so striking against the lush green grass. That amazing view was in site for a good part of our drive. When we finally got to Warwick, we asked our friend why it was so. She went on to explain that it's the vapors from the Eucalyptus trees. We have so much beauty in our country.

Meanwhile, I came across this story in the ABC Science Page on Cyclone Yasi. http://www.abc.net.au/science/articl...07/3132144.htm
It explains well what I was wondering.

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Cyclones are an annual event across the Australian tropics, but some years are worse than others due to seasonal weather patterns.
According to Kepert, Australia has more cyclones during La Niņa weather patterns because of warmer sea surface temperatures, however this won't increase storm intensity.
Other contributing factors can help generate cyclones including a surge in easterly trade winds which could increase cyclonic rotation, he says.
"There's also the Madden-Julien Oscillation weather pattern blowing east along the equatorial belt slowly moving clouds and rain. Scientists are still debating the origin of these winds."
"The oscillation is linked to a doubling of cyclone activity, but is neutral at the moment, so we can't blame it for Yasi".
While some have linked the cyclone to climate change, Kepert says we don't have enough information yet to support this view.
"[Climate change] certainly increases sea surface temperatures, but other changes such as atmospheric circulation offset this.
"The theoretical evidence indicates a gradual increase of about 10 per cent in cyclone intensity. But it could mean a slow drop in the number of cyclones, especially the weaker ones."
Queensland goes through periods of intense cyclones following relatively quiet times lasting one or two centuries, says Nott.
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Old 08-02-2011, 04:11 PM
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This great video really shows the true story of what our world is about and towards the end of the movie I think it shows a positive future for us with great achievements we have accomplished as well as things that we need to fix. It is an hour and 33 minitues long but I really enjoyed it great scenery

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqxENMKaeCU

Some facts from this video.

20% of the worlds population consumes 80% of its resources

The world spends 12 times more on military expenditures than on aid to developing countries

5,000 people a day die because of dirty drinking water

1 Billion people have no access to safe drinking water

Nearly 1 billion people are going hungry

Over 50% of grain traded around the world is used for animal feed or biofuels

40% of arable land has suffered long-term damage

Every year, 13million hectares of forest disappear

One mammal in 4 one bird in 8 one amphibian in 3 are threatened with extinction

Species are dying out at a rhythm 1,000 times faster than the natural rate

Three quarters of fishing grounds are exhausted, depleted or in dangerous decline

The average temperature of the last 15 years has been the highest ever recorded

The ice cap is 40% thinner than 40 years ago

There maybe at least 200 million climate refugees by 2050
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Old 08-02-2011, 10:23 PM
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That's an eye opener of information, Warren.
Not so long ago I watched a documentary with David Attenborough featuring some of the same things you have listed. He is worried (and the figures he showed seemed to justify that) that there will not be enough food resources to sustain the highly growing population. It's called "How many people can live on planet Earth". A one hour video, it's available on you tube broken in parts 1-6. A very, very interesting watch! http://www.youtube.com/results?searc...net+earth&aq=f

I once read that way back when, we grew our own crops and hunted for own food, sustaining life was more successful. Then, we progressed into city hubs where we all rely on and put a big strain on food sources. I am no expert in this area by the way, so don't hold me to anything.
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Old 08-02-2011, 11:16 PM
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Hi Suzy

Here is an interesting fact it surprised me the quote is taken from the website in the link below

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The world produces enough food to feed everyone. World agriculture produces 17 percent more calories per person today than it did 30 years ago, despite a 70 percent population increase. This is enough to provide everyone in the world with at least 2,720 kilocalories (kcal) per person per day (FAO 2002, p.9). The principal problem is that many people in the world do not have sufficient land to grow, or income to purchase, enough food.
http://www.worldhunger.org/articles/..._feed_everyone
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