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Old 31-01-2011, 11:19 PM
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Generally they are Ron, but when you open the hive for inspection they tend to get upset.

I suppose that's fair, I'd be upset if someone took my roof off.
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Old 01-02-2011, 01:22 AM
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I'm pretty sure locks only keep honest people out.
Building a kennel next to the obs for adolf the rotty might deter most thieves
How about an official-looking sign on the gate saying "Tropical Diseases Sample Centre - Hazardous waste exposure - enter at own risk." With a logo showing someone in a full enviro suit. Or perhaps a "Police Line - Do Not Cross" sign. Guaranteed to freeze the missus and guarantee the teenage son's mates go elsewhere.
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Old 03-02-2011, 06:34 PM
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You could always adapt this idea. Not many would be game to approach too close! See http://tesladownunder.com/ for more details (and other attonishing feats).

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Old 03-02-2011, 07:01 PM
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Anti personnel mines???
Just make sure the shed can handle it
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Old 03-02-2011, 10:06 PM
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Here's a few idea's...
Put up a sign "You have been photographed, alarm has been activated, owner notifed"
Put up a tube steel doorway, (75mm x 4mm), make up a tube steel door,(30mm x 4mm), like a gate, and cover each side with 7 ply secured with coach bolts, (the more the better). Weld 4 hinges to the door/doorway.
Use heavy slidebolts with padlock covers top and bottom of the door.
A sensorlight with 2 par38 lamps aim at the door from the inside which can only be turned off by a hidden switch.
A dummy dressed up like Freddy K inside.
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Old 05-02-2011, 01:22 AM
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You could always adapt this idea. Not many would be game to approach too close! See http://tesladownunder.com/ for more details (and other attonishing feats).

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Including me Chris.

Thanks for all the great idea's guys.
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Old 05-02-2011, 08:55 AM
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I would probably consider that the more visible security features that you have on the outside, the more you're sending the message that there's lots of expensive stuff to grab on the inside. Perhaps low key visibility would be the way to go, whilst maintaining good security (decent lock, perhaps a small IR surveillance camera just above the door to get footage of anyone approaching the door, a light with a movement sensor that you can turn on and off from the inside, wireless alarm with door reed switch, PIR, screamer on the inside with GSM dialler).

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Old 08-02-2011, 12:49 PM
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Hi Dean

I agree with your ideas which is why I've gone with the ROR design, the more it looks like a garden shed hopefully the less attention it will attract.

Actually there have been a lot of good ideas which has given me a lot to work with, thanks to everyone for their ideas so far.

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Old 08-02-2011, 05:55 PM
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I originally spoke to my insurance company about whether they'd insure everything inside a garden shed, regardless of what it was / how expensive it was (including telescopes) and they said it was no problem. It actually took me by surprise. Armed with that knowledge, I went about building my beautiful observatory and surrounds, and securing it as best I could. I have photos of everything that lives inside it just in case, and only leave the items in there that have to be in there (ie. no precious naglers, CCD cameras etc). It's fully alarmed, locked and monitored - so there's nothing much more I can do. I must admit to feeling uneasy for the first few weeks after it was built and my telescopes were moved inside.

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Generally they are Ron, but when you open the hive for inspection they tend to get upset.

I suppose that's fair, I'd be upset if someone took my roof off.

Our local bee keeper does wear any of that gear, when he gives classes it's looks funny with everyone else dressed up and him touching bees moving them out the way, doing whatever he wants.

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Old 26-02-2011, 06:22 PM
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Disguise is the best defence I think. Works for sheds, not for domes.

Quality door locks, and strong door. A door that happens to be quite sticky/jammed helps too (confuses legitimate people who try to open the obs, so why not crooks ).

Off-site data backup is a must, easily done to the house and vice-versa, with the network cable hidden of course.

In addition to data, if you house is nearby (say < 100m) you can have a 2-4 camera security set recording the area and having the data stored "offsite" in the house, with UPS backup. Fairly reasonable price these days. Most of those recorders will easily fit in a tucked away place in the house, hidden from being stolen themselves, and only needing a network cable to be able to maintain & monitor them from a PC.

Good locks on the roof is an obvious one I guess, so the roof can't be opened easier than the door.
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Old 27-02-2011, 05:59 PM
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Big fence and large, savage dog

Then the rest of the above mentioned measures
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Old 01-03-2011, 04:12 PM
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Solid core door, two dead locks with different keys and good insurance is all that is needed. Anything else becomes a man trap and that is gonna land you in hot water.

In reality it is hard to sell astro gear on the used market. Places like Cash converters alert police straight away when they see equipment that looks expensive. Even thieves are not stupid about fencing gear off. If you have the basics it will deter most. I would not lose any sleep over whether someone is going to steal your gear or not. Get the insurance and prevent the problem in the first place.
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Old 01-03-2011, 10:56 PM
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Fit an alarm system to it that calls your mobile if the alarm goes off.
Doing this may also bring down the insurance costs as well.


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Try this for surveilence

http://www.softsea.com/software/Video-Surveillance.html

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Old 06-03-2011, 10:54 AM
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That's pretty cool software Adrian.
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Old 06-03-2011, 01:22 PM
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Put a few of these around your observatory

then make up some pressure plates that click loudly when someone treads on them

Come home one day to find someone standing dead still ****ting himself in your paddock

Twisted I know but
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Old 06-03-2011, 04:14 PM
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That's pretty cool software Adrian.
I use some of this software when I go away for the weekend. Just login to the pc at home via my iPhone no matter where I am.

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Old 06-03-2011, 09:55 PM
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Good one Trevor.

Might get the local council a bit worried though.
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Old 30-06-2011, 12:26 PM
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Good insurance is really the only viable answer. While there are lots of ideas for "deterrents", most of them require the threat of violence which is generally illegal, plus only serves to up the "challenge" for them.

The beauty of insurance is, technology gets cheaper, so if you insure for agreed value or replacement value, then when your stuff gets stolen or vandalised, you get to claim for all brand-new stuff.

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