Cloudy Night Classified

[asimov (John)]

Boy, has this thread gone off topic. Anyway, nothing to do with me, I'm not a mod..

I will say though, it comes down to using the noggin' when buying stuff off members of this here forum..Don't trust 'em for some reason? Fine, don't buy it.

[DavidTrap (David)]

Originally Posted by TrevorW

IMO "duty of care" and "PC" are not interchangeable

Thank you Trevor for your dissertation on PC & duty of care.

Perhaps I should have said your criticism of the TOS for being too restrictive then criticism for them being too lax.

I was also referring to a general shift in society where people refuse to take any responsibility for their own actions.

If I was scammed on IIS, the idea of holding Mike responsible for my loss would never enter my mind. I have been bought up to be responsible for my actions. There are situations where "duty of care" does apply, but I don't think an internet forum is one of those situations.

I made a purchase recently on IIS where something didn't feel right initially. I made lots of enquiries of the seller and eventually paid for the purchase COD through AustPost - this involved a third party in the transaction and offered protection for both buyer and seller. I am happy to report the transaction went through without a hitch.

Regards,
DT

[iceman (Mike)]

Originally Posted by taxman

Maybe this needs to be made a little clearer - I had a 'for sale' thread pulled by one of the mods because I said it was also for sale on ebay after a couple of days. Didn't include a link, just said it was for sale there.

I'm not sure when this happened, but if it happened a while ago (before it was clarified) that could be one reason. It was confusing for them too.

I'm pretty sure the mods now know the rules regarding other for-sale sites but I'll clarify with them just to be sure.

[Barrykgerdes]

When I placed an add some years ago. I understood that an IIS member had to establish himself as a bona fidi person by posting at least 10 times to the forums. This I did as a matter of course and I have been very happy to have joined the site.

I have only looked at one shonky add and that was a first post so I wonder if the old rule still applies. I like to read the for sales and picked up some very useful pieces of equipment from them. I always make enquiries about items to the sellers and try to establish their validity. After this I would expect any problems to be of my own doing, not IIS.

I did once get some questionable replies to an add with a ridiculous offer. I was pestered for some time by the person but politely informed him I was not interested. I did get the impression he was a reseller of some type and expected to sell it on to someone else. Incidently I eventually gave the item to someone I knew who had a legitimate need for it.

I suppose I am lucky in some respect in that I don't need to get anything for items I advertise. They have always been depreciated to zero before I offer them. So a good story is all one needs to get the item gratis.

Barry

[iceman (Mike)]

Originally Posted by Barrykgerdes

When I placed an add some years ago. I understood that an IIS member had to establish himself as a bona fidi person by posting at least 10 times to the forums. This I did as a matter of course and I have been very happy to have joined the site.

That used to be the case, in the early days. You had to make 5 posts and be a member for a month. Those restrictions were removed because it was a barrier of entry for legitimate people who wanted to sell some gear.

Originally Posted by Barry

I did once get some questionable replies to an add with a ridiculous offer. I was pestered for some time by the person but politely informed him I was not interested. I did get the impression he was a reseller of some type and expected to sell it on to someone else. Incidently I eventually gave the item to someone I knew who had a legitimate need for it.

There'll always be people like this. There have been complaints about those type of people in the past.
Really though, the best bet is just to ignore those people. You can even put them on your 'ignore' list and you'll never see any of their posts or PM's.

If someone really does keep annoying you to the point of harassment, let a moderator know and we can take action.


Interestingly regarding the original topic, it's only the "Cloudy Nights Classifieds" (the CNC) that they have shutdown. They still run their "Shop and Swap" forums, which are similar to IceTrade, and from what I can tell, are going just fine.

I never really understood why they had both.