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03-01-2011, 05:26 PM
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Rush-Exit Stage Left, the best live album of all time.
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03-01-2011, 05:38 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ric
Black Sabbath "We sold our souls for Rock n Roll"
Ozzy Osbourne at his best and before everything caught up with him.
Cheers
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That album is a collectors item now.
Bear in mind it was released in 75' in the UK (not sure about here in AU) & it was just basically a collection of songs from Sabbaths first 4 prior album releases.
Anyway, I have every Sabbath album right up to present day & then when Ozzy got fired from the band, I collected every album he made with his various bands as well. No one touches 'em or they'll receive ample pain in the finger regions of their hands 
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03-01-2011, 05:50 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Barrykgerdes
Unfortunately there has been virtually nothing composed in the last 50 years worth listening to, just a cacophany of noise consisting of pagan rythm and 4 chord assemblages.
Barry
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Hi,
Generally I'd agree, although you can still do very clever stuff with only 4 chords.
Have a listen to "No Regrets" by the Walker Bros, arranged by Ivor Raymonde (he also used to do stuff for Dusty Springfield) and see what you think.
I too view with some cynicism the noise generated by a lot of the guitar gods of the past 30 or 40 years. I think a tremendous lot of it is self-indulgent rubbish, probably because I like a bit more cleverness rather than just "slow hands" (you know who I mean). This exposes me to an accusation of tragic wannabe, I know, but once you have elevated an icon to God, you tend to expect great things  .
Now take "Jessica" by the Allman Bros. Great melody with a clever hook in it. That stuff in the middle 32 (more like 64) though, did they need to do ALL that ? What do you reckon?
OK, what's better? How about "Suite - Judy Blue Eyes". Great, all through. Steven Stills wrote that about his long-time love, Judy Collins, and I think Graham Nash is terrific on there too.
To try to prove it, have a listen to Nash on the Hollies version of Stewball. Magic:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_ITb...eature=related
Foof, I wish I could sing half as well. Clarke and Nash sang while still at school together, like that, and you can hear why.
Cheers
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03-01-2011, 07:16 PM
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Hi
I used the 4 chords analogy because we were shown many years ago that if you knew how to play the principal 4 chords on the guitar you could play (strum?) just about anything. I can play(?) just about any tune I know on the piano with three bass chords and one finger on the treble. But I am equally sure I would never be asked to give a recital!
Writing music these days is all about making money and if it suits the listeners it usually does. The worst thing about modern music is the glazed look on the faces of people with ipod earphones walking down the street, driving a car or just sitting in the bus beside you. They are oblivious to their surrounds.
In any case everyone has their own choice. In prefer the old classics
Oh! and I need to clarify what I mean by pagan rythym. That is the sound of the heavy beat of percussion instruments meant to stir up and hypnotise the warriors as the prepared for battle.
A little off topic now. I was listening to a country FM program on Sunday, not by choice, it just happened to be what the tuner found, They played an old recording of Paul Robeson singing Old Man River, The politically correct version that leaves off the first verse.
Barry
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03-01-2011, 07:25 PM
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Buddhist Astronomer
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I can't agree with the last 50years Barry but I will go with the last 10 HA HA  although the last 5years have shown promise
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03-01-2011, 07:50 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kinetic
Barry,
I actually feel sorry for you that you have that personal perception
about contemporary music in general.
I could react and say, hey go listen to these 10 songs and tell me that didn't almost move you to tears.
I wouldn't bother though.
One, because I took your comment for what it was... 
and two, the 10 arbitrary songs would be wasted on you anyway.
Steve
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Awwww
Anyway, what 10 songs ?
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03-01-2011, 09:16 PM
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Barry,
may I suggest Nora Jones and Diana Krall with a glass of scotch!
Mick.
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03-01-2011, 09:41 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by miki63au
may I suggest Nora Jones and Diana Krall with a glass of scotch!
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Careful... that Jazz stuff is going to break the 4 chord rule. It'll probably even contain frequent key changes. No wonder you prescribed alcohol to go with it!
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03-01-2011, 10:07 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kinetic
I could list 10 songs ...but for me they have an
emotional attachment to them....like the song I heard
when I was coming home to my family after 6 weeks away.
Or the song I heard when I was driving to
my grandfathers funeral...
The song driving to pick up my first date....
Steve
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That's very cerebral, almost spiritual. Doesn't it mean that whatever anyone thinks, it's OK for them, in their own context? No vast experience needed really?
Anyway, I'll only speak for myself. Years and years ago, on Mykonos, I was in a cafe and heard a tune. The locals only knew it was from Cafe del Mar, but not which.
I found it finally, the other day
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPowO...eature=related
Can't stop playing it now, it's like I was there again.
Cheers
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03-01-2011, 11:36 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kinetic
Everyone has a personal interpretation of a song.
I could list 10 songs ...but for me they have an
emotional attachment to them....
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Gotta agree with this. Some songs are closely linked to memories, people or past events.
In the same line of thinking I used to have songs as ringtones. And I quickly ended up hating them just because of the phone calls so I picked up a generic tone again.  Music is for relaxation.
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04-01-2011, 07:27 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by miki63au
Barry,
may I suggest Nora Jones and Diana Krall with a glass of scotch!
Mick.
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What on earth for! Do you need to be sozzled to appreciate music?
Baz
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04-01-2011, 08:42 AM
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Here is what I appreciate about modern pop music:
The people who love it buy it. (if they don't pirate it)
The government collects the taxes (They don't make anything out of my music tastes)
The taxes help to keep me with my indexed CSS super and OAP in the lap of luxury. (just like the retired pollies)
So why should I complain about other peoples' music taste. I like what I like.
Baz 
PS I have collected various CD's and Discs over the years (because they were available) but I can only ever remember buying one specific record and that was a 45 of Tchaikovsky's Italian Caprice (around 1953)
BG
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04-01-2011, 01:16 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GeoffW1
Anyway, I'll only speak for myself. Years and years ago, on Mykonos, I was in a cafe and heard a tune. The locals only knew it was from Cafe del Mar, but not which.
I found it finally, the other day
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPowO...eature=related
Can't stop playing it now, it's like I was there again.
Cheers
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That's from the album 'Broadcasting from Home' (1984). The band got its break when Brian Eno released their first album on his Obscure record label - Eno's vehicle for promoting music he thought deserved to be promoted. There was lots of good stuff on that label but they were about the only band that had any commercial success (the trumpeter Jon Hassel also had some success). Sadly the leading light of the band, Simon Jeffes died young and the band folded. During its time it had a couple of noted members; Steve Nye and Nigel Kennedy.
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04-01-2011, 03:54 PM
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I bought my first Rolling Stones record in 1963 when I was 12.
Now I have every album and DVD the Stones have released. Why? Because I like them.
Do I care about feeble minded negative comments made by others about their music? NO!
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04-01-2011, 09:43 PM
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Moving to Pandora
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Dont touch my P!NK collection

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04-01-2011, 10:43 PM
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One of my all time "don't touch" is Paint it Black.
I like the original R. Stones, but the version played by Eric Burdon is closer to me.
Unfortunately I lost the record ....
Mick.
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05-01-2011, 12:06 AM
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just build it!
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Ricard Bona - M'bemba Mama
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05-01-2011, 12:33 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Barrykgerdes
I could give a lot more disturbing information on most of the modern music but it would stir up too much controversy.
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No Auto-Tune for you then Barry?
Whilst I agree with you in regard to pretty much anything produced in the past 20 years, there was a lot of good stuff for a couple of decades before that.
Cheers,
Jason.
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