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15-11-2010, 03:04 PM
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Thanks for all your feedback guys!
I will do something about the overcooked look soon, some grain actually makes the image look more natural rather than plastic.
Cheers
Mark
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15-11-2010, 03:41 PM
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Nice image. Perhaps oversmoothed but you got some fabulous structure there.
The column is a hot pixel that drags down the image during the readout process. There is a note about this on the Sbig site. These artifacts reduce with higher cooling. Although unless you can get to about -35C you'll have to deal with them.
Healing tool in Photoshop handles it.
There are also some black specks in the image. I often get these in Ha shots. Not with every setup. A bit elusive. I have been told it is mismatched darks and lights. Not sure that is true but they seem to enter somewhere in the processing. Its like a hot pixel or a cosmic ray hit that does not dark subtract out.
Anyone know for sure where they come from?
Greg.
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15-11-2010, 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by gregbradley
Nice image. Perhaps oversmoothed but you got some fabulous structure there.
There are also some black specks in the image. I often get these in Ha shots. Not with every setup. A bit elusive. I have been told it is mismatched darks and lights. Not sure that is true but they seem to enter somewhere in the processing. Its like a hot pixel or a cosmic ray hit that does not dark subtract out.
Anyone know for sure where they come from?
Greg.
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Thanks Greg,
I'm glad someone else noticed those. They appear quite erratically and not in the same place when doing a blink between images. So I dont think they are hot/cold pixels.
I used an old dark libarary at first which I thought was the problem, but even having used fresh darks I still get them.
They also appear in Luminance subs as well.....
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15-11-2010, 06:23 PM
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Ok now wysi, lovely stuff mate.
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15-11-2010, 07:22 PM
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Very very very nice Mark, big exposures has paid a dividend in this image. I tend to like the first image, it looks a little more natural than no.2 which looks like mine, a little to sharp.
Great stuff.
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15-11-2010, 08:58 PM
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Thanks again for everyones comments!
Based on them this is what I have come up with.
This time no sharpening at all and no noise reduction. I think it has a more pleasant look, more natural and less plastic.
I'm happy with the outcome.
Horse Head Nebula Version 3.0
Thanks for looking!
Cheers
Mark
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16-11-2010, 06:05 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by wysiwyg
Thanks again for everyones comments!
Based on them this is what I have come up with.
This time no sharpening at all and no noise reduction. I think it has a more pleasant look, more natural and less plastic.
I'm happy with the outcome.
Horse Head Nebula Version 3.0
Thanks for looking!
Cheers
Mark
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Now you're talking!
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16-11-2010, 06:29 AM
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16-11-2010, 08:40 AM
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Much better. Congrats on IOTW.
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16-11-2010, 08:44 AM
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Thanks Mike, really appreciate it
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16-11-2010, 09:11 AM
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What a great shot, detailed and quite deep, good improvement on the original too. Nice to see B&W images being displayed as IOTW too...brings back so many memories for some of us
Mike
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16-11-2010, 10:43 AM
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Yes the final repro does it for me too 
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16-11-2010, 12:05 PM
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Great work Mark and congrats on the image of the week.
cheers
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16-11-2010, 09:05 PM
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Thanks Guys!
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16-11-2010, 11:19 PM
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great depth- well done
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16-11-2010, 11:29 PM
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Mark,
Bang on the money; the horse itself could do with a bit of sharpening. Otherwise, congratulations on a worthy IOTW.
H
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17-11-2010, 01:24 AM
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Geez Wizzy, did you leave any Data up there for the rest of us!
Looks like your camera has sucked it all up
Top stuff mate. Absolutely stunning
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17-11-2010, 10:52 AM
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Thanks Jen, David, Humayun and Ken
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17-11-2010, 01:50 PM
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Beautiful!there's just no matching the contrast of Ha.
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