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03-09-2010, 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by strongmanmike
Yeh probably but also the Champaign Angie had at the awards night made her think more favourably of the idea 
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AhhHA so champaign bubble equates to hydrogen bubbles capture from space
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03-09-2010, 04:41 PM
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03-09-2010, 07:03 PM
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Nice rig. Still drooling.
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03-09-2010, 07:05 PM
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Do you have to wait long to take delivery..... When can we expect first light ?
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03-09-2010, 07:05 PM
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OK, done some home work, renders some 1.63 arc/secs, nice, about the same as the tiny refractor thing you have with the 16k chip. BUT its also the same FL  .
Now, given WW is rubbish, thats a given, what do you get?. Faster rubbish (or deeper rubbish for the same exposure I guess)  . Faster rubbish is good, reduces the pain of capturing rubbish, you know, the embarisment of bothering with rubbish at all  .
Looking forward to even more WW rubbish Mike. Deeper, hi res rubbish  .
I do appreciate how well you do WW rubbish though Mike, your good at it, one day you will cross to the dark side and convert to the real faith  .
In the mean time though, youve purchased well I think, good luck  .
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03-09-2010, 07:07 PM
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Nice looking scope, all the best with it. I saw the ad in one of the online shops dont recall which one, and thought wow nice but there was no price. Should have know it would be expensive.
Did you consider the Ricardi Honders, I have read they are just about done with the first batch at AP.
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03-09-2010, 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Bassnut
OK, done some home work, renders some 1.63 arc/secs, nice, about the same as the tiny refractor thing you have with the 16k chip. BUT its also the same FL  .
Now, given WW is rubbish, thats a given, what do you get?. Faster rubbish (or deeper rubbish for the same exposure I guess)  . Faster rubbish is good, reduces the pain of capturing rubbish, you know, the embarisment of bothering with rubbish at all  .
Looking forward to even more WW rubbish Mike. Deeper, hi res rubbish  .
I do appreciate how well you do WW rubbish though Mike, your good at it, one day you will cross to the dark side and convert to the real faith  .
In the mean time though, youve purchased well I think, good luck  .
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That was a lot of rubbish in one post.
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03-09-2010, 07:15 PM
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Nice one. So did you go for Zerodur? Have to say I'm looking at something similar
So many toys...so little time...
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03-09-2010, 07:21 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bassnut
OK, done some home work, renders some 1.63 arc/secs, nice, about the same as the tiny refractor thing you have with the 16k chip. BUT its also the same FL  .
Now, given WW is rubbish, thats a given, what do you get?. Faster rubbish (or deeper rubbish for the same exposure I guess)  . Faster rubbish is good, reduces the pain of capturing rubbish, you know, the embarisment of bothering with rubbish at all  .
Looking forward to even more WW rubbish Mike. Deeper, hi res rubbish  .
I do appreciate how well you do WW rubbish though Mike, your good at it, one day you will cross to the dark side and convert to the real faith  .
In the mean time though, youve purchased well I think, good luck  .
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 You got it all in one Fredo
The AP is 1300mm FL actually (4" FF extends the FL a little) so = 1.43"/pixel = aaaalmost NF
Mike
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04-09-2010, 08:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Peter Ward
Nice one. So did you go for Zerodur? Have to say I'm looking at something similar
So many toys...so little time...
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Hadn't considered the Zerodur upgrade, would be nice.. maybe I ask?
Yes looked at the RH but it was out of my price range as I suspect the AP version will be too  ...not to mention the usual AP waiting list
A fast corrected Newt is harder to pull off than most would think and must be made very well in order to work well, so I can only hope....
Mike
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04-09-2010, 11:06 AM
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Mate, given how much I enjoy looking at the gems of the night sky you produce, I hope you get delivered a fine scope!
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04-09-2010, 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Kal
Mate, given how much I enjoy looking at the gems of the night sky you produce, I hope you get delivered a fine scope!
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Hi Karl, as a fellow AP APO owner we are very spoiled, any replacement scope has a lot to live up to. I am more than a little nervous I must say but I couldn't grow old wondering if I should have given this platform one more go, I am conviced it is the perfect compromise of astroimaging (on a realistic budget) ie decent apperture, photographically fast with reasonable image scale and a large well corrected and illuminated FOV
That's the hope and I can do no more....now just to wait and see  . I am the guinea pig again and if it proves effective this time, well, you can all go out and buy one happy that it will most likely work, if not.... they are dead in the water.
Mike
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05-09-2010, 06:59 AM
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I'm sure it will be excellent, Mike. You will take some killer images for sure!
BTW, I will be getting a new scope as well. I expect my new AP 305 f/3.8 Honders next week. I'm pretty excited to see what it will do.
-Tom
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05-09-2010, 10:37 AM
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I'm sure it will be excellent, Mike. You will take some killer images for sure!
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After the ASA debarcle I will respectfully reserve my verdict
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BTW, I will be getting a new scope as well. I expect my new AP 305 f/3.8 Honders next week. I'm pretty excited to see what it will do.
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 ....DOH! God dam it, you lucky so and so
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05-09-2010, 10:50 AM
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Exciting times ahead Mike for sure. We'll all look forward to sharing the journey. Get that sucker locked in place well before the memory of the champagne dies off!
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05-09-2010, 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Tom Davis
I'm sure it will be excellent, Mike. You will take some killer images for sure!
BTW, I will be getting a new scope as well. I expect my new AP 305 f/3.8 Honders next week. I'm pretty excited to see what it will do.
-Tom
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Well done Tom! I'm on "this list" but AP have given no indication on when/if I might get mine.
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05-09-2010, 11:57 AM
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I wish I could get some "rubbish" like that !
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05-09-2010, 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Peter Ward
Nice one. So did you go for Zerodur? Have to say I'm looking at something similar
So many toys...so little time...
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Hard to pick between the Cerevolo and the AP Honders? Similar pricing and quality. The Cerevolo has two configurations but I imagine different configurations are/will be avilable for the AP Honders too? In the end it comes down to what focal lengths/ratio you want (but they are even close in this department too) or if you want diffraction spikes or not? Sadly for me both were much more expensive than the Orion AG12 though.
Mike
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05-09-2010, 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by strongmanmike
Hard to pick between the Cerevolo and the AP Honders? ....
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'aint that the truth
There is a Ceravolo in my garage at present. Very spiffy.
(sadly not mine..it goes to its owner shortly).
However when configured to something "workable" they are $US 8k more than the AP (!!) then again you end up with a two for one deal F4.9 and F9.
Despite the AP being a one trick pony, it is a full f stop faster...and I suspect a slightly more "elegant" design.....anyway hope to find out next week what the status quo is.
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06-09-2010, 09:31 AM
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The new tak trifocal Cassegrain cca-250 is another contenter in this range. With 3 FL' ragning from f/3.59 to f/8 this would be nice all in one scope. But I think this is more pricer than the Orion once you add all the accesories.
http://www.buytelescopes.com/Product...strograph.aspx
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