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Old 20-12-2005, 11:10 AM
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Nice catch on the Trap Ken !
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Old 20-12-2005, 02:37 PM
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Thanks all!

The fuss over capturing 6 Trap stars has suprised me. I thought that was normal and it was supposed to happen as a normal thing.

Oh well, live & learn.

On the original Avi all the stars are a blobby mess dancing their way across the FOV.
They actually look like blurry throbbing Ameoba doing synchronised swimming!
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Old 20-12-2005, 02:45 PM
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I have only seen six trap stars clearly once, the other times I could almost imagine them. When you get your tracking Ken you will do even better. I am amazed you can even capture them as they must sail through you field of view fairly quickly. Or do you ambush them by setting the dob in their path?

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Old 20-12-2005, 02:54 PM
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I must have been doing something right!

Bert, I give the object several runs to get my levels right and then when I am ready to capture I put it just off the side of the monitor. I get the record button ready and as it sails onto the monitor I click 'Record'.

Yep, it flies right across the FOV pretty fast!!!! Just before it leaves the other side of the monitor I click on 'Stop Recording'. Gives me about 150-180 frames. Usually about 6-8 seconds worth.

I actually tried the Barlow last night on Mars but it shot across the screen in under 3 seconds!!!! Obviously I didn't try capturing with the Barlow.
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Old 20-12-2005, 02:56 PM
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i spose guys that take pics of stars are long exposures so the trap gets burnt out.

the guys that take short exposure stuff are mainly only intersted in planets.

I have seen 6 stars in the trap say only on 5 nights.

This is why i am keen as eggs to do some more double star work. Asimovs sirius was a beauty. I would love to capture some more different coloured double stars.

So mr ken, you 5 from a few weeks ago and now 6 are a rarity on film so to speak, hence the excitement!!!!

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Thanks all!

The fuss over capturing 6 Trap stars has suprised me. I thought that was normal and it was supposed to happen as a normal thing.

Oh well, live & learn.

On the original Avi all the stars are a blobby mess dancing their way across the FOV.
They actually look like blurry throbbing Ameoba doing synchronised swimming!
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Old 20-12-2005, 03:02 PM
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I've got 5 on 'film' & a suspected 6 but I'll keep trying.

Well done again Ken.
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Old 20-12-2005, 03:04 PM
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As far as I know they ( E&F) are also variable stars and not always visible?

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Old 20-12-2005, 03:04 PM
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Woo Hoo! I wasn't aware it was rare Davo!!! I'm a legend in my own lunchbox!! LOL!

The seeing was about 7/10. Can't wait to track the beastie and also have 9/10 seeing!

I want to catch the Neb gas itself a bit better.
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Old 20-12-2005, 03:06 PM
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As far as I know they ( E&F) are also variable stars and not always visible?

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WOW! That makes it even more exciting! Just call me Flukey-Luke

Pity it isn't a clearer pic or I could've sent it to AS&T.
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Old 20-12-2005, 03:10 PM
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great stuff ken! you got 6 of the buggers!

quite the exper now huh!
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Old 20-12-2005, 03:12 PM
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I seem to be able to get the neb itself...just not 6 stars. Can't have everything I guess?
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Old 20-12-2005, 03:15 PM
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Well done!

It's amazing what you can do with an unguided dob eh? I know what you mean about the images zooming across the FOV - it's surprising you can get any decent frames at all, even with good seeing. But I think that's where video capture is very useful, since you get lots of frames in a short time and can sometimes bag some beauties.

Video really has opened up some possibities for those of us who would otherwise have no chance without all the expensive gear & large, stable tracking mount etc. Even a total beginner like me can get out and give it a go hehe...

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Old 20-12-2005, 03:16 PM
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quite the exper now huh!
Ahhh, nope. Not yet but I'm trying!!

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I seem to be able to get the neb itself...just not 6 stars. Can't have everything I guess?
Do you have any of each to combine?
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Old 21-12-2005, 12:04 AM
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I have just been outside on another fantastic night! (Tuesday night)

BUT! I cannot find that elusive 6th star in an Avi in the Trap tonight. I can easily get the 5 each time but not the 6th! (I have taken 5 Avi's of it) But as Bert said, it is a variable star!!!

I also captured a great Avi of 47Tuc but Registax will not lock on to anything in the Avi to process it! I even tried a brightish star in the pic next to Tuc but it just won't lock on, so I can't process it. Pity coz it looks good as it slides across the screen!!!!

Tarantula still won't show up on the monitor and I am having trouble getting objects in the crosshairs in the finder. I need to piggyback mount another scope on the 12" so I can see when I have an object in the field of view for capturing.

Oh well, I am not about to give up. I am on my way back outside to give it more time and more hair-pulling!!! At least I remembered to Collimate BEFORE capturing this time.

Hopefully I will get something worth putting in here!

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Old 21-12-2005, 06:12 AM
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Nice work Ken, I got 6 stars in the trap the other night too.

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Old 21-12-2005, 10:48 AM
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I'm using a very old CRT! On mine the sky is totally Black and the stars are Blue.

You've ruined my lovely picture

I can't believe how stupid I am

Sorry Ken, I was using the new Pleiades plug-in for PhotoShop instead of using the Trapezium plug-in.

I've had another go. Tried to bring out the nubulosity better.

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Old 21-12-2005, 12:50 PM
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Going great guns Ken, just wait until you have that mount up and running
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Old 21-12-2005, 08:51 PM
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I can't believe how stupid I am

Sorry Ken, I was using the new Pleiades plug-in for PhotoShop instead of using the Trapezium plug-in.

I've had another go. Tried to bring out the nubulosity better.

Cheers
Andrew,

Thanks for giving it a go but that looks like the version I got when I pumped the Red up! Heaps of Red stars is the result!

I want to be able to bring the natural Red Neb out but leave the stars their natural whiteish colour too, like the enlarged version I posted above in 'post #16', which hasn't had the colour bumped, it's direct from the Toucam with only Brightness and Contrast fiddled with.

Feel free to keep playing with it though
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Old 21-12-2005, 09:05 PM
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Here is a pic of the Trapezium taken by the ESO scope in Southern Europe in Infra-Red! Now that's a cool star field.

At least I got some of them in my pic LOL!
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Old 21-12-2005, 11:47 PM
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Yes great pic to be able to see all 6 stars.
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