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Old 05-05-2010, 04:41 PM
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I do not believe the galaxy is full of fridge magnets
That depends on how many fridges there are on all the inhabited planets in the Galaxy

And, how many have been lost overboard out of your run of the mill UFO's
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In fact, many (most?) larger celestial bodies (planet size and up) make veritable permanent magnets.

PS Even though the fact that they stick to fridges has probably more to do with gravitation

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Yup, and now with our knowledge of relationship of e-fields and magnetism... we should now not be surprised about what else we find there.... loads of current!

http://www.space.com/scienceastronom...turn-halo.html

Decoding NASA's New Space Speak
"Hot Gas" = Plasma - a conducting ionized gas
"Twisting Flux Tubes" = Birkeland currents
"Electric doughnut" = Toroidal current (Note the sun has these too!)
http://lh5.ggpht.com/_KzR8on8Tdmw/R1...%28Both%29.jpg

amazing photos
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Wouldn't the fridges show up in the images....or has NASA air brushed them out!
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The microwave sky as seen by Planck

A space telescope designed to peer into the enigma of the "Big Bang" has served up its first overall image of the cosmos, the European Space Agency said on Monday.
The picture "is an extraordinary treasure chest of new data for astronomers," ESA declared.
The image was painstakingly built up, slice by slice, by a 700-million-euro ($1 billon) telescope, Planck, which ESA put in orbit in May last year.
http://www.smh.com.au/world/science/...ml?autostart=1

http://sci.esa.int/science-e/www/obj...objectid=47340

I like this image: http://sci.esa.int/science-e-media/img/ec/PLANCK_FSM_03_Black_Regions_v02_ext ragalactic_frame_orig.jpg
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There are already rumours that the Planck data has revealed B-mode polarization of the CMB not only confirming inflation but the existence of gravitational waves.

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Looks like a giant plasma ball to me... filaments, structure, yadda yadda... nothing like gravity gas

We can use lab physics for this one.... no need for hypo matha magical constructs.... enter the plasma universe.

gonna need some charge separations in them models me thinks

Great image Glen...

why stop there tho... have a play: http://www.chromoscope.net/

coalescing gas do that? pfff... time for change gents.
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Old 10-07-2010, 02:50 AM
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Thanks Alex, a great website.
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Looks like a giant plasma ball to me... filaments, structure, yadda yadda... nothing like gravity gas

We can use lab physics for this one.... no need for hypo matha magical constructs.... enter the plasma universe.

gonna need some charge separations in them models me thinks

Great image Glen...

why stop there tho... have a play: http://www.chromoscope.net/

coalescing gas do that? pfff... time for change gents.
So the Planck data shows a giant plasma ball in microwave.
Sinces plasma emits electromagnetic radiation over a wide spectrum, and very strongly in X-ray due to Bremsstrahlung, explain the absence of filamentary structure in the X-ray image?
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So the Planck data shows a giant plasma ball in microwave.
Sinces plasma emits electromagnetic radiation over a wide spectrum, and very strongly in X-ray due to Bremsstrahlung, explain the absence of filamentary structure in the X-ray image?
Excellent questions Steven... plasmas emit radiation depending on their mode state...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4jZ9...eature=related

See 1 Min 47 For an explanation of mode states (Dark, Glow, Arc) mode...

Glow and particularly Arc are fairly easy to see via em discharge, but we can also measure 'dark' mode, not from the radiation of the plasma, but from the Faraday rotation of polarised light traveling through the plasma field.
Bryan Gaensler, of Sydney Uni, has done alot of work on this mapping of "magnetic fields" using radio telescope techniques. He calls his theory "The Magnetic Universe" but is of course aware of the electric currents producing these fields as he's said, that's just simple Maxwells, the M-fields are setup by the currents.

We need to think of the Galaxy as not a uniform "Hot Gas Plasma", but as a dynamic circuit. Electro dynamics and circuit theory are very important here...

Now... onto the question...

Regarding Xrays not forming filaments, we both know Xray emissions are very high energy emissions. Plasmas (given their name in part due to their cellular forming nature) form Double Layers. It is in these double layers that electrons (and charged particles) are accellerated to very high speeds, it is at this high-energy state that the "brake" (Bremsstrahlung) radiation can emit to the level Xrays... Synchrotron Radiation is also very important, as these particles are moving through m-fields.

For example have a look here...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Ma...mnant_full.jpg

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The remnant of "Tycho's Supernova", a huge ball of expanding plasma. The outer shell shown in blue is X-ray emission by high-speed electrons.
See how the "high speed" is caused in the "double layer" area of the plasma cell...

It is in these double layers that the real action (high acceleration) happens... so it would depend on how much energy is available to the system as to where you'd see xrays, i'm sure you'd find some areas of the circuit that could achieve plasma filaments with xray discharge... certainly Chandra has mapped plenty of em

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Thanks Alex, a great website.
great fun... these amazing new telescopes are changing everything we know about how galaxies work... it will change the way we view the universe forever.

http://www.youtube.com/user/Thunderb.../0/I-46CJ5Pt7U
(see the 6:00 mark... what a change since the 1980s!)

The universe is alive and dynamic.

All the best

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