pixinsight 1.6 released - for those that care ;)

[RobF (Rob)]

Originally Posted by Harryianpage

Hi

For pi lovers there is the new ( Very unfinished ) harrys user guide at
http://www.harrysastroshed.com/pixuser/pixuserhome.html

Still lots to add , but give me a few weeks

Harry

The reality is you're probably responsible for selling 2 out of every 3 copies of PixInsight at the moment I think Harry, your tuts are THAT good. Many thanks again for all that hard work, and please keep them coming.

[loc46south (Geoffrey)]

I am halfway into a test drive of PixInsight - So far I have found it difficult to get my head around but with a bit of patience it is starting to produce the goods - at test image of M20
http://www.pbase.com/loc46south/image/84243681/large

There are still a lot of faults with the image especially the stars need fixing and the colour noise in the fainter areas of the nebula but that is my lack of experience with the software - it's a keeper for me and I can only see things improving with age.

Cheers
Geof

[Harryianpage]

Hi Rob

Only 2 out 3 , I must try harder sorry


Harry

[h0ughy (David)]

Originally Posted by loc46south

I am halfway into a test drive of PixInsight - So far I have found it difficult to get my head around but with a bit of patience it is starting to produce the goods - at test image of M20
http://www.pbase.com/loc46south/image/84243681/large

There are still a lot of faults with the image especially the stars need fixing and the colour noise in the fainter areas of the nebula but that is my lack of experience with the software - it's a keeper for me and I can only see things improving with age.

Cheers
Geof

Geof nothing like contiunually beating your previous personal Best. Keep up your good work. It is over saturated but if you did a repro i think it has promise. of course one of harry's videos does explain a lot of what you need

[loc46south (Geoffrey)]

Hi Houghy - many of the problems with the image I could have fixed in PhotoShop no probs, but the purpose of the exercise was to see what I could produce with PixInsight. What I have found is that once mastered the software will more than likely produce very good results but in the initial stages the lack of real infomation about the basic workings of the software make it VERY VERY HARD WORK. If it hadn't of been for the extensive video resource and working examples that Harry Page has created I would have tossed the whole project after the first hour and gone back to Photoshop.

Geof

[h0ughy (David)]

quite true Geof, and in one way i originally did that. it took me three attempts to getto know some of this product - with some big help from Eddie Trimarchi - he gave me the first real hint. Harry's videos topped it off

[Omaroo (Chris Malikoff)]

I agree with what's said so far about gettng to know it. Pleiades would not do themselves any harm if they came down from the rafters and explained WHAT "object-oriented approach" meant to the common user, and WHY it was so good in layman's terms. If you're into software design you'd know, but if all you want to do is perform a few basic tasks on an image file, it would be good to know the "why", "what" as well as the "how". Sorry, but just telling us in their intros that "it is better" than a linear workflow and that you'd never go back to standard software after you got to know PixInsight doesn't do much for all of us unless it is really explained in a side by side pros and cons argument.

[h0ughy (David)]

Originally Posted by Omaroo

I agree with what's said so far about gettng to know it. Pleiades would not do themselves any harm if they came down from the rafters and explained WHAT "object-oriented approach" meant to the common user, and WHY it was so good in layman's terms. If you're into software design you'd know, but if all you want to do is perform a few basic tasks on an image file, it would be good to know the "why", "what" as well as the "how". Sorry, but just telling us in their intros that "it is better" than a linear workflow and that you'd never go back to standard software after you got to know PixInsight doesn't do much for all of us unless it is really explained in a side by side pros and cons argument.

quite true - i sort of align them with Mac users but in their own way they are unique because they are heavily involved with the development of the package - when users like us come along we are mesmerised by it all and your right - we don't understand where they are coming from. That is why the videos from Harry are a godsend, after watching those i went back and re watched the earlier ones produced to show is the new and specific functions Pixinsight has. I think it is well worth the journey

[Harryianpage]

Hi People

I agree that sometime Pixinsight runs a competition to find the most obscure names possible for their tools.
Its good to hear what people think of pixinsight as sometimes I / We forget what it was at the start and If I can improve the old website to help I will

Saying this some of the complex uses of photoshop are Alien to me and skillful users of photoshop tend to forget that it also is very hard to learn, well for me I gave up on photoshop
Keep the faith

Harry

[loc46south (Geoffrey)]

Hi Pixinsighters - As an interested bystander in this discussion I think there are a few points that need to be taken into consideration.

1 Like it or not PixInsight is in direct competition with PhotoShop.
2 Like it or not most Astro Imagers use PhotoShop.
3 If it is to succeed Pixinsight must attract most of it customers away from P/S

Most astro imagers are not expert users of Photoshop nor do they understand the full working of the software ( I place myself firmly in that catagory) but 2 features that are almost always used are the selection tools (colour range select, magic wand, losso ect) and Layers.

The ability to select a part of the image, then process it and finally blend it into the finished image has become part and parcel of the way we compile our pictures - and lets face the fact most of us are in the game of making pretty pictures. As far as I can ascertain Pixinsight is unable to perform these basic functions without resorting to complicated pixelmath

Pixinsight has some great features and possibly a future in astro processing but at the moment it is very much Beta Software, it lacks some the basic processing tools most imagers use. I have bought a copy and will continue to play with it (I'm a software addict) but for the forseeable future I will continue to do most of my processing in PhotoShop.

Cheers
Geof

[Harryianpage]

Hi Geof

I am not going to get into a photoshop / pixinsight discussion other than to say they are different .

The way pixinsight approaches its processing is different to other packages and the use of masks to select area to control selected areas can take a bit of practice
Where I do agree with you is that a form of layers is going to be needed and is indeed in the pipeline ( Do not know when ) As I know you have put your desires on the pixinsight wishlist and perhaps we can get things moving for you

Anyway for me I will continue to use my Beta pixinsight for the majority of my processes

Regards Harry

[Dennis]

Hey H0ughy

Just downloaded and installed the 45 day free trial package. I really don’t know why I bothered with this preliminary step; I’m bound to purchase the full blown package from what I have seen!

It looks a very functionally rich application; I hope it can turn my sow’s ears into silk purses! LOL!

Cheers

Dennis

[h0ughy (David)]

Originally Posted by Dennis

Hey H0ughy

Just downloaded and installed the 45 day free trial package. I really don’t know why I bothered with this preliminary step; I’m bound to purchase the full blown package from what I have seen!

It looks a very functionally rich application; I hope it can turn my sow’s ears into silk purses! LOL!

Cheers

Dennis

Dennis, please download all the video tutorials that harry page has done and watch them - they are brilliant and show you a lot of what is possible, then download the videos that Juan has put together - thats really in depth and gives a real inkling of what the package can do. you cant go wrong then repro to your hearts content

[Dennis]

Originally Posted by h0ughy

Dennis, please download all the video tutorials that harry page has done and watch them - they are brilliant and show you a lot of what is possible, then download the videos that Juan has put together - thats really in depth and gives a real inkling of what the package can do. you cant go wrong then repro to your hearts content

Thanks Dave – did you see that wide field Sword of Orion processing tutorial using an image taken by someone with a nom de plume of Mr Houghy!

Cheers

Dennis

[Phil]

Can any one please tell me how much this software is as it is in Euros.
Thanks
Phil

[h0ughy (David)]

Originally Posted by Phil

Can any one please tell me how much this software is as it is in Euros.
Thanks
Phil

just do the currency conversion about 242 dollars - 171 euros