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Old 07-02-2010, 09:32 PM
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Sensational!

Thanks for that.
What an emotional experience that would be!
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Old 07-02-2010, 09:51 PM
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Wow what a ride
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Old 07-02-2010, 11:16 PM
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Sort of rebutts any misgivings about suborbital flight being hardly worth it, doesn't it?

I'm a bit miffed as to how that could have cost only 15k, even some time ago. (What with Virgin Galactic only flying to that altitude and charging a fair bit more).
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Looks awesome... the music was a bit cheesy though!
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I have that episode on a USB key with me. I never know when I might need to show people.

I thought this was posted about here previously last year? Can't remember.

Anyway, cheers for the reminder!

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Virgins flights I believe go 5 times higher than what the migs and U 2 can operate at
(110 km)... Start saving
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I thought this was posted about here previously last year? Can't remember.

Anyway, cheers for the reminder!

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Yep Humayun - I put one up last August about it, but that's OK: http://www.iceinspace.com.au/forum/s...ad.php?t=46431

This was when it came out on Fox - and I guess that most people don't have Fox and hadn't seen it until now.

Good to see it again though! Great show.

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I saw this video last year but it was good to watch again.

The particular U-2 in the video is interesting because it is a two seat training model
or has been modified to accommodate the second seating position.

A highly recommended book is "Skunk Works" by Ben R. Rich and Leo Janos,
first published by Warner Books in 1994. Ben R. Rich was head of the Lockheed
Skunk Works where the U-2 was developed and devotes some interesting chapters
to it.

One of the original movers and shakers behind getting the U-2 project going was
Edwin Land, the genius of Polaroid fame, who recognized the reconnaissance
capability that could be provided with the use of high quality optics and films
from high altitudes. Once they received funding, the CIA approached then Skunk
Works head, Kelly Johnson, to design it.

Reputedly the aluminium fuselage was so thin that if you dropped a spanner
on it, it was likely to leave a four inch deep dent.

The original cover story for the aircraft was they were part of a new high altitude
weather research project. As Rich writes in his book,
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"The were strange weather birds - hidden away in a remote corner of the Wiesbaden air base [Germany],
guarded by CIA agents carrying submachine guns".
When the original Soviet SAM's couldn't reach their altitude, according to
Marty Knutson, the first pilot selected to fly the U-2, they tried to ram them with jets.
Knutson says,
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"They stripped down some of their MiG-21s and flew straight
up at top speed, arcing up to sixty-eight thousand feet before flaming out and falling
back toward earth."
That lasted until May 1, 1960 when Francis Gary Powers set off on his ill-fated
flight from an airbase on the outskirts of Peshawar, Pakistan, sparking one the
of the major incidents of the Cold War. It certainly was a May Day present come
true for Kruschev at the time.

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That lasted until May 1, 1960 when Francis Gary Powers set off on his ill-fated
flight from an airbase on the outskirts of Peshawar, Pakistan, sparking one the
of the major incidents of the Cold War. It certainly was a May Day present come
true for Kruschev at the time.
There was a film made of the incident starring Lee Majors (Six Million Dollar Man), wasn't too bad if I recall
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There was a film made of the incident starring Lee Majors (Six Million Dollar Man), wasn't too bad if I recall
Hi Adam,

That is indeed correct and it was a made-for-TV movie that was shown
here several years back.

It was difficult to deny the U-2's true purpose once the Soviets went over the wreckage.

The aircraft's equipment bay was referred to as the Q-bay and its camera contents
were regarded as Top Secret. The Q-bay was fitted with a destructor unit
wired to a little over a kilogram of RDX explosive. Activating the destructor
was a two step process. The pilot first had to throw one switch and then
a second which would begin a 70 second countdown. With the Q-bay location
directly beneath the cockpit, the pilot risked serious injury should it detonate
whilst he was in the aircraft. Powers didn't activate the self-destruct mechanism.
Pilots were also issued with poison pins.

Several years ago, I passed by the airforce base just outside of Peshawar, Pakistan
where Powers began his secret flight.
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s "Skunk Works" by Ben R. Rich and Leo James,
first published by Warner Books in 1994. Ben R. Rich was head of the Lockheed Skunk Works where the U-2 was developed and devotes some interesting chapters to it.
Would that be Leo Janos Gary?
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Would that be Leo Janos Gary?
Hi Chris,

Thanks for the correction. It is indeed Leo Janos and I must have had James
May on the brain when I made the typo.

The ISBN is 0-7515-1503-5

If you haven't read the book and can find a copy, it is a fabulous read.
It also details the development of the SR-71 Blackbird and F-117 Stealth Fighter.

Apart from Francis Gary Powers flight, several other U-2's came down.

The Chinese managed to down at least four of the U-2's that flew out of Taiwan
and then put them on public display in Tianmen Square.

The Hollywood movie, Thirteen Days, re-enacts one that was shot down by
a SAM over Cuba during the Cuban Missile Crises.

One was also lost over Vietnam but the pilot ejected.
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