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Old 28-11-2005, 10:32 PM
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Dave i like the fact that there is almost no plastic anywhere on the scope! and with the zero shift I have found it to be a real bonus. it does however have mirror shift when focusing but you can live with that!
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Old 28-11-2005, 10:42 PM
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"говорят truely"?? Stop playing with auto-translators, Houghy! Speak truely in your own tongue! After 5 years of Russian I can still only remember a few words. But I wouldn't know how to type them in here.

SOrriskiii! But I did stay on topic. (off topic - you have quite a well rounded life expeirence there janoskiss!)

I love my MAK
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Old 28-11-2005, 11:41 PM
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...still think it's a volvo.
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Old 29-11-2005, 10:51 AM
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Hi Dave,

I'm glad your enjoying you new telescope as much as I'm enjoying your last one . Hopefully the weather will clear soon so we can give them a good run.
Best wishes,
Jodie

P.S. I love the ArgoNavis
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Old 29-11-2005, 06:18 PM
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You people lost me with the Ruski speak

Mite not be a Volvo, but its is well built. Like a Russian tank

I do like the crayford focuser. No Image shift is great Houghy.

I shall look into wooden legs(tripod)

Glad to hear from you Jodie. I was wondering how you are going.
Glad you are working the Argo Navis ok

Just can't get good seeing or even cloudless skies.
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Old 29-11-2005, 06:26 PM
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No "image shift", but there is "mirror shift"? I assume "image shift" is the same thing as I have in my Dob with the R&P focuser at high mag: the image moves when change direction of focus travel (from in to out or v.versa). Can someone explain what "mirror shift" is?
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Old 29-11-2005, 08:06 PM
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I seriously doubt your dob has mirror shift, assuming it is a newtonion.
My guess is your focuser drawtube is loose enough to "wobble" slightly, as you change from one direction to another. I believe that others have "shimmed" their drawtube or the exterior section that the drawtube slides in. I am sure there was a thread on this very topic a while back. Failing that toss the question oiut there, someone will remember it.
"mirror shift" in most terms means a SCT mirror, that focuses by sliding closer to and further away from the secondary, in a closed tube system. This same mirror is able to "rock" slightly on the in/out focus system, and as you change direction with the focus knob, the mirror "rocks" and the image moves. They also can "rock" slightly as you pass across the meridian. Hope this is not too confusing.
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Old 29-11-2005, 08:30 PM
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So how does Dave's Mak have mirror shift but no image shift? Houghy?
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Old 29-11-2005, 08:34 PM
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Steve

Check some of my earlier threads regarding my R&P focuser.

There's some good stuff in there about the inherent problems of stock standard focusers an a few things you can do to make them work a little better.
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Old 29-11-2005, 08:52 PM
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So how does Dave's Mak have mirror shift but no image shift? Houghy?
My Mak does not have image shift due to mirror movement, like some SCT. The mirror does not move. It has a crayford focuser.
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Old 29-11-2005, 09:13 PM
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So Houghy was talking "pooh-pooh", when he said:
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Dave i like the fact that there is almost no plastic anywhere on the scope! and with the zero shift I have found it to be a real bonus. it does however have mirror shift when focusing but you can live with that!
?

I'm just curious about Maks and what quirks they have that good ole Newts don't.
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So Houghy was talking "pooh-pooh", when he said:
?

I'm just curious about Maks and what quirks they have that good ole Newts don't.
Houghy's scope is a M500 which moves its main mirror to get focus like a SCT.
Mine is a MK-67 which has a crayford focuser.
Just different models.
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Old 29-11-2005, 09:37 PM
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Does it have a polar scope Dave or do you have to do a Polar alignment exercise every time you use it?
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Old 29-11-2005, 10:22 PM
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Does it have a polar scope Dave or do you have to do a Polar alignment exercise every time you use it?
Yes Ken the mount does have a polar scope. I don't bother about polar alignment I don't take photos. Just point the mount roughly south and it tracks well.
I have had many EQ type mounts and for viewing don't get to fussy on polar alignment.
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Old 29-11-2005, 10:22 PM
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Houghy's scope is a M500 which moves its main mirror to get focus like a SCT.
Mine is a MK-67 which has a crayford focuser.
Just different models.

Thanks Dave i did mix up my scopes. janokiss I forgot his was the newt version, mine is the cassigrain version. My Poo Poo was meant to be factual, my scope does suffer from image movement when focusing, but when its focussed it doesn't move at all, even through zenith!
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Old 29-11-2005, 10:40 PM
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Thanks Dave i did mix up my scopes. janokiss I forgot his was the newt version, mine is the cassigrain version. My Poo Poo was meant to be factual, my scope does suffer from image movement when focusing, but when its focussed it doesn't move at all, even through zenith!
No both scopes are Mak cassigrain
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Old 29-11-2005, 10:47 PM
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No both scopes are Mak cassigrain

pass me another slice of that humble pie please! What a dunce I am, my apologies extend to all who think I am an idiot. Sorry to confirm your worst fears .

so your scope has the focus unit external to the tube, correct, where mine is internal?

edit: you know when your having a bad day when even your fixups have more errors than the original statement!

time for my medicine!
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Old 29-11-2005, 10:52 PM
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It's definitely not a newt.

It's a Mak. But as I understand it both mirrors are fixed so you have to move the eyepiece in and out to focus just like a refractor or newt. It means there's no image shift because the mirror isn't moving around. Much much better, but more expensive to make.

You can do the same thing on all meade SCT's by buying the programable electronic focuser. The mirror is locked and the eyepiece holder is replaced by a motorised "normal" focuser that is attached to the back of the scope.

But Daves is all russian factory assembled (genuine volvo )
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Old 29-11-2005, 10:54 PM
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so your scope has the focus unit external to the tube, correct, where mine is internal?

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Correct now for another
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Old 29-11-2005, 10:55 PM
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Even without trying to work out all the technical bits, it's a mighty fine looking Scope Dave. The mount looks well made too.

You must be very pleased.
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