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Old 16-12-2009, 03:27 PM
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I've calibrated each and every image I've ever taken. There's not a single hole anywhere to be seen.

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Old 16-12-2009, 04:17 PM
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Thanks fellas,
I'll try to take all that in, the two frames that were posted bare no resemblence to the pics I ended up with . Maybe if you replace all the black with red it would be closer to the point.
I see everyone has their opinions on the best chances of success, Octane.... I will take your advice and then work around all you other folks in turn untill I see some sort of pattern I can grasp.
Again thanks to all.
Brendan seems to be in the know and he is local so If I ask nicely he may come over and give me some pointers I'll be well peeved if the camera is a dud tho but Im guessing its user error.
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Old 16-12-2009, 04:30 PM
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OH sorry one more thing what is the best software for stacking? Maxim dl essentials was ok for CCD but it has a stroke on shots from the 50d
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Old 16-12-2009, 04:47 PM
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Image Plus works very well with cr2 files.
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Old 16-12-2009, 05:03 PM
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tanx mate image plus ....got it
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Old 16-12-2009, 07:24 PM
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with what your saying gary theres a difference in the cameras by quite a fair amount, i read somewhere for instance the 350d and the 40d that the 350d's iso 800 was the 40d's iso 400.

Ide hardly belive that canon would go so far backwards when it came to noise and amplification of their sensors, irrispective of this problem temperature is 90% the cause of such noise, if you turn a dedicated astro ccd on and don't use tec, it will most likely look similar to the noise profiles you hvae shown.

My M42 shot that recently gained 1st place in astronomy WA's Astrofest had NO reduction shots aka no flats, no bias, no darks no nothings. yet its silky smooth without any noise ninja, noise works help.

what was the good news for that. Temperature blimy it was close to zero degrees. From this night on darks only reduce so much noise, but as bert has pointed out, it leaves holes in your fine faint data basically killing the image. so if you want limited/no noise you need to cool her down!
Brendan, yes I have heard that the 40D would be similar at iso 200 as to the 350D at iso 800. I don`t know if that`s to do with 12bit as apposed to the 40D`s 14 bit depth and would that infact make a impact on the thermal noise using the lower iso?
If someone can explain this I would love to know...
When I mod the 40D I shall give both camera`s a better comparison.
Yes, if you can keep it cool it makes so much difference! Even my old 300D gave terrific results when it was -3 deg outside. Stack 5 or so it would be silky smooth.
But saying that like Humayun mentions if you calibrate the darks/flats/bias you can get pretty close. But I have noticed when doing stacks of images during warm periods I often get that streaky look to the image when stretched but never when it`s real cold.

Robbie, why not give Deepskystacker a go, it`s free and it does a fine job once you get it going.
cheers Gary
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Old 18-12-2009, 05:48 PM
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Robbie, why not give Deepskystacker a go, it`s free and it does a fine job once you get it going.
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Ahh ok will try that thanks for the tip and I love the price.
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Old 21-12-2009, 12:40 PM
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After the input from you guys and the help of a book Ive resolved the noise problem on my 50d.
It hurts to admit it was user error.

Many thanks for all your help and thanks for the tips deepskystacker works fine.

Now I can happily go take some midnight happy snaps
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Old 21-12-2009, 12:46 PM
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So, what was it that you were doing?

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Old 21-12-2009, 03:11 PM
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So, what was it that you were doing?

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Well to be honest Im not sure, I simply bought a couple of books on DSLR Astrophotography and set the camera to the base settings quoted in the book. Took a 10min sub and almost no noise.
I think it was a case of too high an iso and too long an exposure coupled with having switched on all the things that add heat to the camera's cmos chip either directly or indirectly.
I'll take some shots over xmas and post them Octane and then maybe you can give some advice for fine tuning.
Thanks again.
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Old 21-12-2009, 04:13 PM
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