Impact (on Prime , Seven).

[dpastern (Dave Pastern)]

Originally Posted by Hagar

Come on you clowns, it was a TV show, light entertainment (very light on the entertainment side) not a doco. Better than watching the soaps and more police stories.

yeah but Doug, it does nothing for *real* science. Is there a wonder that the public believe BS like this? I'd rather be educating the public with correct information, than crap like this. Especially in the International year of Astronomy I might add.

I watched part of this and then had to simply walk away. Poor SFX, cardboard acting, incredibly stupid plot. Drivel from Hollywood. Yes, let's blow up the moon so we can slow the Earth's rotational period down...gee oh whiz golly me pickle me grandmother colour me pink (for Jen). lol.

Dave

[FredSnerd (Claude)]

Originally Posted by dpastern

yeah but Doug, it does nothing for *real* science. Is there a wonder that the public believe BS like this? I'd rather be educating the public with correct information, than crap like this. Especially in the International year of Astronomy I might add.

I watched part of this and then had to simply walk away. Poor SFX, cardboard acting, incredibly stupid plot. Drivel from Hollywood. Yes, let's blow up the moon so we can slow the Earth's rotational period down...gee oh whiz golly me pickle me grandmother colour me pink (for Jen). lol.

Dave

David I think you might be assuming that the public is taking this seriously. I dont think they are. Thye see the flawes like we do and they put up with it like we do. Exceopt foir the 15 year olds like we used to be who think ITS GREAT!!!! and talk about it monday morning just before school.

[Ian Robinson]

Originally Posted by FredSnerd

David I think you might be assuming that the public is taking this seriously. I dont think they are. Thye see the flawes like we do and they put up with it like we do. Exceopt foir the 15 year olds like we used to be who think ITS GREAT!!!! and talk about it monday morning just before school.

Got news for you .... a large section of our society is scientifically uneducated / scientifically illiterate , even more so in the USA and a significant fraction of those people actually believe the "science" presented in this kind of movie .... heck they also believe in ghosts , spirits, demons, alien abductions, UFOs , creationism.....

The regularly reappearing threads here and elsewhere about Nibiru and the like attest to the fact some fools believe this kind of crud.

The least Hollywood can do , is pick a phone and talk to real astronomers and physicists , or bring some in as story / plot / effects consultants to a least give these things some plausible scientific basis.

[dpastern (Dave Pastern)]

Originally Posted by FredSnerd

David I think you might be assuming that the public is taking this seriously. I dont think they are. Thye see the flawes like we do and they put up with it like we do. Exceopt foir the 15 year olds like we used to be who think ITS GREAT!!!! and talk about it monday morning just before school.

Sorry Claude, but I can't agree with you on this. The public are mostly scientifically illiterate. Have you wondered why sciences in high school year 11/12 are dying? Because the youth aren't interested (mostly). I'd rather be boring and teach the kids the right information and have intelligent and plausible movies on TV that drivel like this.

Dave

[FredSnerd (Claude)]

Ian,

Im sure you will always find someone who believes in the most unlikely thing but in my experiance most people watch this kind of crud for entertainment but otherwise put no credit in the science. I never heard of this movie before. I think its just a telemovie. In other words the movie makers and the TV stations knew that no ones gonna take this film seriously. Its just peoples Friday night escape.

I just went on rotten tomatoes. The latest big box office movie 2012. Has an approval rating of 37%. In other words 63% thought it was C$%P and of the 37% do you think they believed in the science. I dont think so. They just went to see some great special effects. IMOP people (us) are much smarter then we like to think.

[Hagar (Doug)]

I cannot believe the mentality of some of the so called educated mob here. The TV movie was exactly that, a TV movie. Nothing more, nothing less. At no stage do they imply that it is real.
Nexxt thing you will be telling me is all the hospital shows are real also. SCRUBS is probably the closest to real hospital life.
Police shows and murder mystries etc. Far from the truth. Ask any police detective.

Come on wake up and smell the roses. The other thing you can do is press the off button, simple.

[Ric]

Awwww, I didn't even realise it was on. I love a good old disaster movie.

The "Towering Inferno" has to be an all time classic.

[dpastern (Dave Pastern)]

Doug - just because they don't imply that it's real doesn't mean that people will believe it, or elements of the story.

I mean, people believe the Earth was flat because a popular religion encouraged it. It wasn't until some people used their brains and questioned things that we realised the Earth wasn't flat. The public is easily misled and brainwashed imho.

Dave

[Miaplacidus (Brian)]

Uh oh, looks like this thread might degenerate into a mush of mindless generalizations about how dumb people are. Excellent! I'll get the ball rolling by recounting the anecdote about when I was in the Northern Hemisphere and I had this conversation with quite a nice bloke who was convinced I was just trying to trick him when I said it was Summer on the other side of the earth in January. (He'd reluctantly accepted that maybe the moon would look upside down from Australia, but this other stuff... "What sort of idiot do you take me for?")

Any others?

[toetoe (Peter)]

Originally Posted by dpastern

people believe the Earth was flat

Dave

What do you mean "was flat" oh no have i missed something
as for the movie, come on everyone, get over it, i thought it was ok for entertainment.

[Waxing_Gibbous (Peter)]

Dimwits in the US are no dimmer than here, there are just more of them.
I suspect on a per-capita basis the ratio of 'dumb' to 'smart' would work out about the same. Anyone daft enough to believe science from a film as bad as this is going to be border-line rational anyway and would likely have voted for GWB Jr. But, Lord help us, they can vote.
True, it WAS an awful flick, but not because of the psuedo-science, which was no more pseudo than that of "Star Trek" or "Stargate" or "MegaShark vs Giant Octopus".

Suspension of disbelief is intergral to enjoyment of Fantasy and Sci-Fi.
Providing its too not preposterous, I can usually do this.
What made it an awful flick was the wretched acting, woeful dialogue, cliched plot devices and begining to end predictability.

What should p*** you off, is the hocus-pocus of String Theory being presented as science. I notice the previously credible journal, "New Scientist", seems to have jumped on the band wagon as well as "Astronomy" and the final straw the BBC.
The amount of otherwise good research dollars being poured into what is an essentially unprovable, quai-religious philisophy is staggering.

[kinetic (Steve)]

Originally Posted by Miaplacidus

Any others?

I once showed my neighbor inside my dome after he pestered me about
'what's that thing for'........

On opening it up he peered inside at the setup.
'All homemade mate', I said proudly,'telescope, homemade, ground the
mirror myself'.
'Tripod, homemade. Computer tracking, homemade...cameras
homemade...dome, yep homemade also.'

silence

I could tell his eyes had glazed over after a few words.

Then he turned to me and said ' Maaaate this would make an
excellent bong room'........

Steve

[Jen]

Originally Posted by kinetic

I once showed my neighbor inside my dome after he pestered me about
'what's that thing for'........

On opening it up he peered inside at the setup.
'All homemade mate', I said proudly,'telescope, homemade, ground the
mirror myself'.
'Tripod, homemade. Computer tracking, homemade...cameras
homemade...dome, yep homemade also.'

silence

I could tell his eyes had glazed over after a few words.

Then he turned to me and said ' Maaaate this would make an
excellent bong room'........

Steve

lol Steve

[dpastern (Dave Pastern)]

Originally Posted by kinetic

Then he turned to me and said ' Maaaate this would make an
excellent bong room'........

Steve

hahaha, that's a classic.

Dave

[Baddad (Marty)]

Hi Peter & All,

Sounds that there's a lot of mixed opinions on the movie.

Some liked it. Nothing wrong with that. Personally it was not my bag. I yo-yo'ed between it and a couple of other channels. I wondered why I came back to the movie three times. I had formed my opinion of it. Blah!...

It was one of those nights, lazing, watching TV. nothing much on after "The Universe" on Foxtell.

Don't get me wrong, just because I did not like it does not make it a bad movie.

Cheers Marty

[ngcles]

Hi Doug & All,

Originally Posted by Hagar

I cannot believe the mentality of some of the so called educated mob here. The TV movie was exactly that, a TV movie. Nothing more, nothing less. At no stage do they imply that it is real.

True Doug, but not only was the science very poor, the script was awful, the acting "B-grade" and the special effects were very mediocre. It was, as an all-round package a crap movie. The portrayal of what passes to be "science" in this way is what actually causes a lot of uninformed people to become mis-informed -- which is worse than uninformed. It is neither hard nor expensive to get the facts right on something like this, so why not get them right?

Originally Posted by Hagar

Police shows and murder mystries etc. Far from the truth. Ask any police detective.

Absolutely true Doug. Do two wrongs make a right here?

Originally Posted by Hagar

The other thing you can do is press the off button, simple.

Once I noticed we were running low on stematil that's percisely what I did.

Never thought I'd say this but instead, we put "Confessions of a Shop-a-holic" DVD on and it was a more enjoyable experience for this 47 year-old man. 'Nuff said


Best,

Les D

[Enchilada]

Just watched it on a Sunday afternoon….

I can't believe this thread… Surely the worst part was gravity going in reverse, with people being sucked up into the air. I mean flying people, flying cars, hay bales, etc.

Also brown dwarfs are not dense object, only white dwarfs are. They mixed up the two, and explained it as both. They meant white dwarfs. Also white dwarfs are strongly magnetic, but only because of their fast rotation.

Yet if a piece of white dwarf did do what happened in the movie it is impossible, because with out the gravity the piece would expand back to normal matter - mind you not nickel or iron, but mostly carbon, oxygen and nitrogen. The object would have been a comet like object not any solid mass.

Ye, cannot change the laws of physics. Impossible.

The worst for me, however, is the portrayal of amateur astronomers by Hollywood. Why are we made out as geeks?

The other thing is why was one of the lead female artists Dr Maddie Rhodes (played by Natasha Hensgtridge) in an observatory at night and still dress to the nines!

…yet just to show how gullible it is presently rated on "The Internet Movie Database" 5.6/10 !!

As one commenter said; "TOTAL WASTE OF THE TIME!!!"

Comments on this site are worth the read; See; http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1227637/usercomments

[Ian Robinson]

Originally Posted by kinetic

I once showed my neighbor inside my dome after he pestered me about
'what's that thing for'........

On opening it up he peered inside at the setup.
'All homemade mate', I said proudly,'telescope, homemade, ground the
mirror myself'.
'Tripod, homemade. Computer tracking, homemade...cameras
homemade...dome, yep homemade also.'

silence

I could tell his eyes had glazed over after a few words.

Then he turned to me and said ' Maaaate this would make an
excellent bong room'........

Steve

Who's to say it isn't .... (as well ....) .... ?

I wouldn't smoke the stuff , but plenty do.