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Old 19-11-2009, 09:36 PM
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Yeah sorry Jeanette. We're probably confusing the hell out it now. It was Chris fault though, he started it! ... or did I?
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Old 19-11-2009, 09:39 PM
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Yep - that's cool. I've just been reading and it looks like the guide rate is upped on the Digital Drive (and other GEM mounts/controllers) with PHD so that the movement during calibration is exacerbated - in order for the camera to be able to clearly show the software how it's oriented by analysing large movements. Otherwise, it'd take several minutes longer to calibrate.
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Old 19-11-2009, 09:40 PM
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Yeah sorry Jeanette. We're probably confusing the hell out it now. It was Chris fault though, he started it! ... or did I?
It was an evil ...plot..
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Old 19-11-2009, 09:46 PM
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Damn computer crashed.
start again.
might work better this time??
Guiding is a good as I'm going to get it in the mood I'm in.
Good enough.
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Old 19-11-2009, 09:48 PM
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Damn computer crashed.
start again.
might work better this time??
Guiding is a good as I'm going to get it in the mood I'm in.
Good enough.
One thing I've noticed with PHD, if it starts doing stupid things. Shut it down. You don't have to reboot your PC, but disconnect the USB on the guider, then replug the camera. Restart PHD and voila! It should start working fine again.
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Old 19-11-2009, 09:52 PM
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It crashed when I disconnected the LPI.
But don't get me started on the lpi and k3.
I think a good stiff drink will be in order once I get this up and running.
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Old 19-11-2009, 10:01 PM
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And we're guiding.
Thanks heaps guys.
I really appreciate it.
Now....any suggestions as to where to point my camera?
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Old 19-11-2009, 10:03 PM
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And we're guiding.
Thanks heaps guys.
I really appreciate it.
Now....any suggestions as to where to point my camera?
Very cool! Orion should be up soon.
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Old 19-11-2009, 10:04 PM
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He's just clearing the roof of my house now.
I'm thinking M45 for a couple of hours then hit the Flame nebula.
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Old 19-11-2009, 10:05 PM
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And if I'm still up for it, I might even drag out the 8" and have a go at Mars.
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Old 19-11-2009, 10:08 PM
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And if I'm still up for it, I might even drag out the 8" and have a go at Mars.
Now you're a tease. All I can see from Sydney tonight is the cloud nebula. Been stearing at it for over a week now...
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Old 19-11-2009, 10:11 PM
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Damn clouds. They spoiled my evening last night.
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Old 19-11-2009, 11:13 PM
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Ok, so I've done a drift align, and everything looks good.
Now Phd is saying it can't callibrate because my star isn't moving enough.
What the???
I thought that was the idea of drift aligning?
Any ideas what the problem may be?
Drift aligning can come later. First you need to convince PHD it knows what's going on.

Did you check in the brain settings that:
"Dec guide mode" is right? Auto is probably best unless your mount is spot on.
"Max dec duration" is big enough? 2000 is usually a good value.
"Calibration step" is right for your focal length. 2500 works well on my 500mm guide scope

The pulse length is the maximum PHD will use. If a smaller amount works, it will not use the maximum.

Once you get it to calibrate, fire up "Tools->Enable Graph" and see how well it is tracking. A small sawtooth is normal. A big one means your alignment is not as good as you though it was.

If the camera is square with the mount, you can drift align by turning off the Dec motor, turning PHD's grid on, selecting "loop for frame and focus" and watch where the stars go. It takes some practice (I'm not that good at it), but does work.

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I think PHD doesn't care about the orientation of the camera. I remember Craig Stark saying that in one of his posts a while ago. That's the best thing about it. It doesn't care where North, south East or West is in the camera FOV. I'm pretty sure though that calibration is to know how far the mount moves for a known pulse time. pemPRO calibration works exactly the same way. The program needs to know how far the mount is going to move so then it can scale the pulses for known deviations while guiding. That's my understanding of it anyway.
PHD wants to work out which in direction RA & Dec movement commands move the stars. It doesn't care what the orientation is. If moving the mount only in RA causes the stars to move at 45 deg, that's probably fine. Making it square to the mount just makes it easier for you to make sense of. After all, how would you make an off-axis guider work if you could not find a star without using some strange orientation?

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One thing I've noticed with PHD, if it starts doing stupid things. Shut it down. You don't have to reboot your PC, but disconnect the USB on the guider, then replug the camera. Restart PHD and voila! It should start working fine again.
If PHD won't shut down disconnect the guide USB and try again. If it still won't die, kill it from task manager.
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