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06-11-2009, 07:07 PM
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06-11-2009, 07:44 PM
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I'll just add a few things to this...
flushing DNS command (no one seemed to mention the actual command itself)
usually Windows has the localhost 127.0.0.1 entry in the hosts file, maybe Windows 7 is different? Vista does it...the hosts file is found (as others have already said) in:
c:\windows\system32\drivers\etc\hos ts
use notepad to view it. It simply is a way of telling your computer that a particular host name has a particular IP address. I could quite easily make your web browser think that the Google webpage is really the IIS homepage if I wanted to (and was able to edit your hosts file of course)...
I am perplexed as to why you are not getting an IP address. You cannot be on a network without an IP address. ipconfig should have returned an IP address for whichever device was being used for network (ethernet adaptor, wireless adaptor, etc).
IPv6 is not commonly used, very few networks will use it. IPv4 is still very much the standard addressing range imho, and from my experience in the industry.
What sort of Internet connection do you have? Dialup? ADSL? ADSL2+ Cable? Satellite? ISDN? How is your computer connected to the modem device? Cable? wirelessly?
Have you tried running the DOS shell as administrator, and then running the ipconfig command? start > all programs > accessories > command prompt - right click on it and select properties. Go to the compatibility tab and tick "run as administrator". Nothing else need be ticked in here.
Just a few thoughts...
Dave
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06-11-2009, 11:24 PM
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Hi David,
Thanks also for your help, the local host 127.0.0.1 was the key to solving my issues. Still ipconfig shows no ip address as it is supposed to, but all things are working and I really appreciate the assistance.
I am really surprised at the difference Win7 has made to the speed of the computer over Vista, its like a different pc.
PeterM.
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06-11-2009, 11:30 PM
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Is it that much faster? Cos to be honest, I notice no speed differential between vista and xp sp 2 (I run a triple boot system - xp sp 2 32 bit, vista x64 sp 1, debian amd x64).
Dave
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06-11-2009, 11:34 PM
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O its faster all right I just stopped someone from throwing their 2 year old laptop on to the main road just by installing win7 on it before I got win7 on it took the laptop 15 min to boot up
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07-11-2009, 12:10 AM
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I'm sure Dave will take umbrage, but in my opinion:
The simplest way to stop Windows slowing down over time is to not run Windows. *nix rules. Others in no particular order.
Erase the disk and completely reinstall only those things you know you still want. A painful process but effective.
Never install anything just to try it without taking a full backup first. Uninstallers never remove all the junk. If you must experiment, try it in a cloned VM first.
Fit all the memory your motherboard will support. Note that there is a trade-off in battery life for laptops/notebooks.
Have more disk than you can poke a stick at. Insufficient free disk is asking for fragmentation and slowdowns. A 26,000 fragment page file is not a pretty sight. (How it got like that I don't know. It was allocated with a fixed size on an almost empty disk.)
Install the page defrag utility from Sysinternals http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/s.../bb897426.aspx and configure it to run every boot, or at least until it says all the files it wants to tidy up are in 1 extent.
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07-11-2009, 01:11 AM
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hahaha @ Andrew - my preferred operating system is GNU/Linux (Debian). Not UNIX, but close enough. I could always fire up a vm of openBSD or freeBSD (both technically Unixes, although they come from sys 32 from memory, not sys v classical UNIX).  I'm really a Linux guy @ heart, I use it day in day out at work.
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07-11-2009, 07:27 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dpastern
hahaha @ Andrew - my preferred operating system is GNU/Linux (Debian). Not UNIX, but close enough. I could always fire up a vm of openBSD or freeBSD (both technically Unixes, although they come from sys 32 from memory, not sys v classical UNIX).  I'm really a Linux guy @ heart, I use it day in day out at work.
Dave
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Hi Dave
Have you tried SABAYON 4.0 I really like this one its the only linux where every thing on my lappy worked first go after install wireless and the little multimedia buttons the lot. The only thing it needs IMHO is SUSE Linux One click install and YAST.
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07-11-2009, 10:04 AM
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Peter,
I assume then that this means that it would also have worked fine under Vista had you done the same thing ?
Which then makes it surprising that Software Bisque were unable to help you resolve the problem.
Rally
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07-11-2009, 10:09 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dpastern
hahaha @ Andrew - my preferred operating system is GNU/Linux (Debian). Not UNIX, but close enough. I could always fire up a vm of openBSD or freeBSD (both technically Unixes, although they come from sys 32 from memory, not sys v classical UNIX).  I'm really a Linux guy @ heart, I use it day in day out at work.
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Dave,
I've spent over 30 years working with computers. I've run Slackware since version 1.something. Today I have boxes with version 9, 12 and 13 (x64). If everything I need to run was available (or even buildable from source) on Linux there would be no Windows on any of my computers.
At work it's AIX, HPUX, Linux (RHE), Solaris, and Windows (everything from NT4 onwards).
Windows causes more grief than the rest put together.
Andrew
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07-11-2009, 10:20 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by supernova1965
Hi Dave
Have you tried SABAYON 4.0 I really like this one its the only linux where every thing on my lappy worked first go after install wireless and the little multimedia buttons the lot. The only thing it needs IMHO is SUSE Linux One click install and YAST. 
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Haven't tried it. I'm a Debian guy through and through.
Dave
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07-11-2009, 10:40 AM
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I haven't had the pleasure of using AIX, HPUX. I used Slackware years ago (well tried to) as I was trying to move away from Redhat. Didn't have a lot of success with it and gave up on it. Around 12 months later I migrated to Debian and although it's just as hard to install/configure as Slackware, I stuck with it and learnt more in the process. I'm glad I did! I've used Solaris (8 and 10 for i386) - in fact I have a Solaris 10 VM on my system now lol. I don't play with it a lot, I simply don't have the time in the day anymore to do so. I work a 9 hour day, travel 3 hours on top of that and by the time I get home I'm just generally too knackered...
Microsoft Windows is not as bad as you make it out to be. It's far more stable and secure than it used to be 5 years ago, and that's a positive.
Dave
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Originally Posted by mithrandir
Dave,
I've spent over 30 years working with computers. I've run Slackware since version 1.something. Today I have boxes with version 9, 12 and 13 (x64). If everything I need to run was available (or even buildable from source) on Linux there would be no Windows on any of my computers.
At work it's AIX, HPUX, Linux (RHE), Solaris, and Windows (everything from NT4 onwards).
Windows causes more grief than the rest put together.
Andrew
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07-11-2009, 12:40 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dpastern
Microsoft Windows is not as bad as you make it out to be. It's far more stable and secure than it used to be 5 years ago, and that's a positive.
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That's damming with faint praise. When Windows is as secure, and as hard to break, as any of the *nixes (in which I include Linux and OS X) I might reconsider.
Andrew
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07-11-2009, 12:50 PM
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Windows runs Photoshop and Canon's Digital Photo Professional. And, so, is OK, by me.
Seriously, for the common man, it does everything they need it to.
The only people who run an operating system other than Windows, are IT professionals (those who work with the systems in the industry), the curious, and, the tinkerers. I'd say that covers 99% of the population.
The other 1% would be anomalous, and, I'd like to befriend them.
Regards,
Humayun
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07-11-2009, 07:15 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rally
Peter,
I assume then that this means that it would also have worked fine under Vista had you done the same thing ?
Which then makes it surprising that Software Bisque were unable to help you resolve the problem.
Rally
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Hi Rally,
Software Bisque were very helpful and quick in responses and offering resolutions. I have always found that if you ever want Astro suppliers that will respond to your issues etc then my experience has shown that Wild Card (Argo Navis), Starlight Xpress and Softwqare Bisque have been way out in front, oh and of course our own Ice In Spacers, what a great community. SBs response being to go to ipconfig and get the ip from there. When this didn't give me what I needed I emailed SB and in the meantime put it on IIS and the guys here responded. I have emalied SB to advise the issue is resolved. So yes it appears it probably would have worked with Vista, so either very few use Orchestrate or if the do perhaps they use XP.
But a win, win 'cause others now know how to resolve and I must say I do like Win7.
PeterM.
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