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Old 02-10-2009, 12:09 AM
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That is 5A at whatever battery voltage not mains (240V).
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Old 16-10-2009, 12:13 PM
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I just went through an experiment at Bathurst (Mt.Panorama) circuit this past week. I know this is a little off topic, but gives you an insight to what the result can be.

The Mrs and I went camping and I wanted to go all solar and battery powered. She was very dubious about it all, and I said "Don't worry about it".
We had a Waeco 60lt fridge, a large HID-LED light (used in the mining industry for a headlight), a 300w inverter (12V) and a laptop.
I had 2 solar panels, both of the "Jackeroo" brand. One was just the panel and one was a panel with a battery pack (7ah).

Each panel gave me 13w at 0.75amp. The panel with the battery pack (i'll call this one a later model or 2 ver) had a switch that you could switch between 12v and 24v.
The older one went for $119 and is now sold out. The later one went for $140, but 1 week later, when I bought it went up to $199, I was &%%&^%.

Every thing I chose was 24v as much as possible, due to the fact that it draws roughly 1/2 the amps of 12v.
For 8 days of camping (in cool weather) I never ran out of battery power.
These solar panels did exactly what I wanted to do and more.
The fridge was set to -7c, and the laptop (using the 12v-240v inverter), the light and all the other stuff was sporadic use.

It is now my intention to run these panels, whilst using the scope.
It will be on 2 x 12v batteries (unsure of series or parallel yet). I do have a 240v power plug for the microstepping motor setup, but unsure how much power that will draw. I haven't done the sums yet. But the concept is to power the scope off 2 x 12v batteries. However the down side is carrying these 2 batteries in the car. For me it's no issue as I am used to moving large batteries around all day. The car handled 4 largish batteries (tractor) and all the camp gear, so it's all good.
The batteries I used were of a standard tractor/car battery design (not deep cycle), they were rated to about 100ah each.

As Malcom says, all lights should be of HID LED. The light I used draws 3 amps to get started and gets down to about 1 amp just to keep going.
It ran on 24v (2 x 100ah 12v batteries) for 4 days about 4-6 hours each day. Without a recharge, but I know it was getting low, might of got 1-2 extra nights of power but that would be it.

Even though I bought the panels for camping, I just solved how I will get power for the scope out in the bush. This is just magic.

Do your sums first, as power requirements judge what panels you use.

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Old 16-10-2009, 02:29 PM
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Nice one Brett.
I have a 65W solar panel to use when camping or when I eventually get back out to a deep sky site.

Please don't confuse HID and LED.
HIDs are Gas-discharge lamps, the most common consumer type used in car headlamps and torches etc is the Metal halide and Xenon short-arc lamp, basically a very small version of a camera flash tube that runs continuously.
Street lights (Mercury vapour, Sodium vapour and Metal halide) are also HID lamps.
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Old 16-10-2009, 05:20 PM
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Sorry Simon, I did get confused. I use HID's and LED's at work, should have put a "/" there.
The light I use, is an HID (gas arc) 24v 35W Nordic style light. Man that's got some power, but I might have to put a red film over for Scope stuff....Hehe.

I was going to opt for a solar system (not the planets one ) around the 80w, but time and money got away from me, so 2 x 13w had to do.
I reckon that the solar with batteries is the way to go, for power supply in the bush

I just had a look at the power supply for my stepper motors, supplys 280w, and my inverter is 300w, I should just make it in suppling the scope with power (hopes).
I haven't done any conversions for power consumption just yet, but I might just run it for a bit to see if it works and how long it lasts on 2 batteries.
When I get the gearing system, in the next few weeks, it will come alive
Hoping by Christmas, I can have it going but the gears don't arrive till mid Nov.
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Old 16-10-2009, 06:32 PM
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I just had a look at the power supply for my stepper motors, supplys 280w, and my inverter is 300w, I should just make it in suppling the scope with power (hopes).
The power supply would have a rating of 280W but the components would only use a portion of it. Depending on design it may only power 1/4 to 1/2 of the power supply rating.

Generally low cost devices use power supplies that run very close to their power rating whereas higher quality item run much less than there rated power. This is to conserve power supply heat.

The inverter should handle this quite well, I'd say.
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