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05-06-2009, 09:43 PM
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Dave,
That's OK. The League of Gentlemen was very, very twisted. It's not everyone's cup of tea.
But, I'd implore you to watch a few other videos. Might change your mind. That sketch of Papa Lazarou is a small segment from a much larger skit that ran throughout three seasons of the show.
Sorry for the off-topic post.
Regards,
Humayun
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05-06-2009, 11:37 PM
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Bit Disappointed With the Responses Here.
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Originally Posted by h0ughy
he has had his chances and the drink is a problem. Like a moth to the flame.......... the glass is not there to protect him anymore
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Whatever ever happened to human compassion here, eh?
Prefer to kick the man in his probably lowest moment?
He has a serious addiction problem. Give him support not the usual carte blanch condemnation (as this thread implies), please!
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06-06-2009, 08:19 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Octane
Dave,
That's OK. The League of Gentlemen was very, very twisted. It's not everyone's cup of tea.
But, I'd implore you to watch a few other videos. Might change your mind. That sketch of Papa Lazarou is a small segment from a much larger skit that ran throughout three seasons of the show.
Sorry for the off-topic post.
Regards,
Humayun
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I'll try (and find time).
Dave
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06-06-2009, 09:22 PM
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I don't know anything much about Andrew Symonds.
However, I will say this about high-profile sportsman, whether it be in cricket, rugby league, golf ... These people are idolised by the young and are held up as role models to be emulated. As such they have a responsibility to set example. They are in a privileged position and most are adults who should know the difference between right and wrong.
The administration within these sports are responsible for setting minimal standards of behaviour. Much of the poor behaviour stems from weak club administration, perpetuation of drink culture and poor attitudes. Failure to modify behaviour is often through negligent inaction.
Nothing riles me more than the continual media apologies for bad behaviour, which are meant as some form of token atonement. Please!
Regards, Rob.
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07-06-2009, 08:38 AM
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Let's take a step back - if we apply the *same* rules to the NRL, they wouldn't have any players left at all...prolly the same for AFL.
Personally, don't be surprised if Andrew has had a gutful of the ACB (I know I'd be jack of those old tossers myself) and has deliberately done this so he can get his contract cut, so he can go to minor asia and make ten times as much and be *really* appreciated, without any contractual interference.
Good on him I say. Give the bird to establishment Andrew. Those up tight mongrels deserve it.
Dave
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07-06-2009, 08:43 PM
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He signed a contract to do a job, he did not keep his end of the bargain and follow the rules in that contract. He deserves to be sacked. End of story.
He's not special, he plays a game. Time he found a real job.
Bill
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07-06-2009, 08:56 PM
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Cleaned up some inappropriate posts from this thread.
Please keep it clean and on-topic.
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07-06-2009, 10:23 PM
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Close ithe thread Mike if i was mod i would of long b4 now.......CHEEERS kev.
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08-06-2009, 08:23 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dpastern
Let's take a step back - if we apply the *same* rules to the NRL, they wouldn't have any players left at all...prolly the same for AFL.
Personally, don't be surprised if Andrew has had a gutful of the ACB (I know I'd be jack of those old tossers myself) and has deliberately done this so he can get his contract cut, so he can go to minor asia and make ten times as much and be *really* appreciated, without any contractual interference.
Good on him I say. Give the bird to establishment Andrew. Those up tight mongrels deserve it.
Dave
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Agreed,
Politicians and the like get away with this all the time, including I dare say alot of people running the game as well.
Its a double standard in this world.
1 rule for them and 1 rule for us.
Andrew just has the balls to stand up to them.
Matt.
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08-06-2009, 11:11 PM
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Originally Posted by coldspace
Agreed,
Politicians and the like get away with this all the time, including I dare say alot of people running the game as well.
Matt.
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I don't think politicians nor the like are getting away with anything today. The media are so quick to smell out any unacceptable behaviour or divergence from normal protocols. Just witness the recent demise of Rudd's defense minister and the stood down CEO of the Cronulla Sharks.
All those in privileged and esteemed positions need to tune in to their responsibilities.
Regards, Rob.
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09-06-2009, 12:38 AM
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The pollies in the UK are getting a hiding too, and a about time. With priveledge comes responsibility, in equal measure.
Bill
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09-06-2009, 01:56 AM
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he was at the footy on the gold coast yesterday watching titans vs dragons and on the grog again.
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09-06-2009, 09:24 AM
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I believe he copped a fair bit while touring in India a couple of years ago. At the time "the team" didn't stick for him neither did the Cricket Board for that matter. He became increasingly disillusioned with the people he works for. He's only human, probably a good bloke and an excellent player. Just went down hill from there on. I find comments from Ponting mentionning "he's let the team down" a bit ironic when they played down all the abuse he had to go through. Didn't "the team" let him down back then?
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09-06-2009, 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by multiweb
I believe he copped a fair bit while touring in India a couple of years ago. At the time "the team" didn't stick for him neither did the Cricket Board for that matter. He became increasingly disillusioned with the people he works for. He's only human, probably a good bloke and an excellent player. Just went down hill from there on. I find comments from Ponting mentionning "he's let the team down" a bit ironic when they played down all the abuse he had to go through. Didn't "the team" let him down back then? 
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Ponting is an [insert choice of word, it's a common name for a Donkey]. If I'd been Symonds, I'd have been disillusioned with both the ACB and my team mates. Neither of them stuck up for him. Personally, I can do without "mates" like that.
As I said earlier, let's compare it to the likes of sex scandals in the NRL, glassings from well known AFL players, and so forth. They didn't get stood down with their contracts torn up. I see double standards from society here to be honest, and if there's one thing that I have an intense disliking of, it's double standards.
Dave
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09-06-2009, 11:49 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dpastern
As I said earlier, let's compare it to the likes of sex scandals in the NRL, glassings from well known AFL players, and so forth. They didn't get stood down with their contracts torn up. I see double standards from society here to be honest, and if there's one thing that I have an intense disliking of, it's double standards.
Dave
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Agreed Dave...speaking as an impartial observer when it comes to sport/cricket etc (migrant from Scotland - don't give a s@#t either way!!) - seems to me that Australian Cricket Officialdom has a very old colonial/puritanical attitude to the minor indiscretions of cricketers in comparison with the almost deviant shenanigans of the AFL/NRL steroidal freak fraternity!!
Bad behaviour by role models isn't cool for the kids regardless of whichever balls you choose to play with!
For me, Andrew Symonds seemed the most colorful/entertaining out of a bunch of un-entertaining skinny guys in white jumpers and green caps!
Media wise - seems like the most blatant form of double standard in a media culture which glorifies/demonizes/makes money from the drunken lariken behaviour of sportsmen.
At the end of the day though this means nothing and should probably be treated as such!
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10-06-2009, 08:08 PM
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Symonds is a 33 year old man behaving like a a naughty child.
Let's stop making excuses for this little boy, he's had his chances.
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10-06-2009, 08:50 PM
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Andrew Symonds signed a contract, if he cannot keep to the terms of the contract he pays the price.
No ifs or maybe's
If you sign a contract and you don't abide with it, the person who you signed the contract with has every right to terminate it.
Why people are going off that he is being hard done by baffles me.
Get over it, he is finished.
End Of Story.
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14-06-2009, 02:23 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dpastern
Ponting is an [insert choice of word, it's a common name for a Donkey]. If I'd been Symonds, I'd have been disillusioned with both the ACB and my team mates. Neither of them stuck up for him. Personally, I can do without "mates" like that.
As I said earlier, let's compare it to the likes of sex scandals in the NRL, glassings from well known AFL players, and so forth. They didn't get stood down with their contracts torn up. I see double standards from society here to be honest, and if there's one thing that I have an intense disliking of, it's double standards.
Dave
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Agreed.
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14-06-2009, 12:12 PM
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The sad thing is, after the Cronulla Sharks sexscapades, a good percentage of the people on the street blamed the girl and not the guys. I'm sorry, but it takes 2 to tango, and those guys should have had enough commensense to stay away. I like what Bruno Cullen is doing with the Broncos btw. As to the Broncos sexscapade last year, those buggers got away with it due to political and police interference. As Rodney Rude used to sing, "Queensland cops...".
Dave
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