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Old 31-05-2009, 01:22 PM
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Remember folks, ALL flouros contain mercury. A flourescent light or tube works by passing electricity through mercury vapour. It emits UV light, that strikes the phosphor coating on the tube interior. This converts the UV to visible light.

Leds are today not as effecient as the best Flouro tubes, see link

Note, new prototype LEDs promise better than flouro effeciency though.

The most effecient artificial lightsource we have is the good old fashioned low pressure sodium lamp, at a whopping 200 lumens/watt. It is excellent for astronomy too, as the 2 sodium lines are easily blocked by all LPR and nebula filters. If all our cities were lit exclusively by them, though we would have to put up with everything in yellow monochrome, we could use filters that reject just the yellow sodium lines and clear to all else, and have skies as dark as Siding Spring Observatory, and have much lower power consumption and greenhouse gas emissions to boot.

Note. With flouros, coloured tubes are also very efficient. EG a red tube has phosphor that emits only red light, whereas putting a red filter over a white light means the other colours are still produced but blocked.

My design for a mega long lasting flouro light source is to not heat the electrodes at each end, rather use an efficient step up power source to supply sufficient voltage to get a discharge happening while cold. That is, make them as cold cathode light sources. Link

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Cold cathode fluorescent tubes operate at a much higher voltage and lower current than conventional fluorescent lamps. The higher voltage overcomes the need to heat the tube while the lower arc current greatly extends the life of the discharge electrodes.

Dispensing with the wasteful heated electrodes allows high efficiency to be achieved in a small lamp. Cold cathode lamps are typically ten to 30 percent more efficient than a comparable hot cathode fluorescent lamp.

Cold cathode lights have a life expectancy more than twice that of typical compact fluorescent lamps and do not suffer accelerated degradation with variations in supply voltage.
Laser diodes may bright about the most effecient lighting. This mob managed a staggering 71% Electrical-to-Optical Power Conversion Efficiency
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Old 31-05-2009, 02:49 PM
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Cold Cathode Flouro's (CCFL) have been around for some time.
Electronics Australia(RIP) and Silicon Chip magazines have had a couple of flouro driver designs over the years for people wanting to run 20 and 40W tubes on 12 and 24V solar systems.
Most, if not all, battery operated flouro's... the ones with the 4W and 8W tubes like torches, camp lights etc, are of CCFL design.

Mass-market LED's really are not far away.
LED torches now outshine incandescent counterparts.
LED versions of the common 50W Halogen downlight are available, they are almost the same light output but use only 4W of power and plug into the same halogen socket. Right now though they retail for around $50 to $70 each.
LED's have a rated life of around 50,000 to 100,000 hours (no, thats NOT compact flouro hours either!)

It's a bright future for LED's.
Actually, LED's never really die(if treated correctly), like us, they just get dimmer as they get older.

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Old 31-05-2009, 07:32 PM
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I think it is all hot air - a ploy by the light-bulb manufacturers to sell expensive globes.
Lets face it - they throw off bugger all light and don't last long. I think the government (and the greens) have been suckered by some good (for them) lobbying from the manufacturers.
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