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Old 27-05-2009, 02:03 PM
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have you got it in color

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Old 27-05-2009, 02:35 PM
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A wonderful image. Wide, wide, wide field never ceases to amaze and enthral me.
Frank
Thanks Frank. Wide fields do have that spacial element too them. Composition is key for impact.

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Not bad at all Jase. That faint dust is most probably masked by the light pollution at my place. Next time you need a good rectilinear widefield give me a pm and if I can see it from my place I will whip one up. The Canon 300mm F2.8L lens has a field of 7x4.6 degrees with a full frame and has far less than 1% rectilinear distortion over its entire field.

Have you tried the the calibrate function in Registar? With enough overlap it matches brightness and colour balance etc.

I should really have said amazing image.

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May just take you up on that offer Bert. A scaffold image to register the panels against would have definitely assisted. I wouldn't need to see the nebulosity in the data, just the stars as that's all I'm registering against. Yes, I've tried Registar's calibrate feature, but found it suppressed the histogram details between the frames. It did provide relatively even illumination across the frames however. It has given me an idea though. I could use this feature for the initial background, then overlay the extend objects to counteract the dynamic range lost in the calibrate function. This maybe worth a try, but I don't know how well it would work for the presented image given the IFN is faint and not well defined is some regions. Thanks for checking out the image and for your input, it just maybe the answer for future mosaic work.

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WOW, killa detail. Fabulous guiding.
Thanks David. No problems guiding at 530mm. I can go unguided for around 10mins at this focal length with PEC. I should perhaps spend a little more time tuning the mount to go longer.

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Jase the other thing you can do is generate a map and register with Registar to the map. I produced a map with a 10 degree FOV with Star Atlas Pro and used Registar to superimpose your image. It helps if you turn off the clutter of labels etc. Since your optic is rectilinear you can see that the map is as well. I left the galaxies turned on for all you galaxy hunters.

Large Map 4.7MB
http://d1355990.i49.quadrahosting.co...05/mapjase.jpg

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Excellent Bert. Thanks for the map overlay. The scene is not as featureless as originally thought. Some pleasing background galaxies around. The stand-out galaxy IC4633 is quite a treat, but did notice a few others while processing the image such as IC4618. Doesn't look very spectacular at 530mm. May consider targeting it at a long focal length of a rental scope. Thanks for putting this together. Appreciated.

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Beautiful shot Jase and a great writeup, as always I enjoyed both.
Fascinating to read about the IF illuminating the nebula !!

Thanks for sharing another breathtaking image with us.

Cheers Andrew. Didn't plan on the long image blog, just thought others may get valuable information as to what went on. If it helps others, its constructive IMO. The IFN research conducted by Steve Mandel and others is certainly an interesting piece of work. As with most of the images on Steve's site, they exhibit a blue hue given strong UV flux. This wasn't present in any of the data I acquired. As indicated in the original post, but blue hues of the nebulosity were virtually non-existent. I ended up using pixel math obtain a better match for the green and red channels. Both of which were quite strong to begin with, hence the dusty characteristics (weighted green and red produced the brown hues). This makes me wonder if it is indeed a part of the Integrated Flux or an entirely different expanse of nebulosity. I've pinged Steve an email questioning this, will see where it leads. While the colour balance isn't as accurate as I would have liked, its is still close for a traditional RGB image. Anyway, thanks for checking it out and making comment.

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A beautiful shot, truly shows off what the FSQ can do.....

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Thanks John. The FSQ is the new age Schmidt astrograph. Well, maybe not...the Tak E180 covers a similar FOV and has the advantage of more aperture. Still the FSQ holds its own. Its always a blast to image with given its sampling with the STL11k If the seeing was worse than 3.5 arcsec/pixel, it don't think I'd be out in such bad weather.

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Jase! Maaaaaate!

Absolutely splendid
Thanks Peter. Appreciated.

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have you got it in color

Of course Trevor. I don't post half baked work or work in progress - not my style. Hit the full resolution image if you want to see the subtle hues. You'll need to throw away your monochrome monitor.

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Old 27-05-2009, 05:28 PM
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Jase chill mate no offence thats why the two thumbs up, the hues are very subtle indeed for a nebulosity. Don't know if it's my imagination but seen in other images as well how the stars form ring shapes in the image.

Anyone else notice this

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Old 27-05-2009, 05:54 PM
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No dramas Trevor. The ring shapes around the bright stars are internal reflections occurring between the filter and CCD cover slip. I could chase them in processing, but they didn't bother me enough to warrant the effort.

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Old 27-05-2009, 06:02 PM
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Sorry not referring too the halo's around the brighter stars but if you stare at the star field you can see how stars form ring shapes in the image more noticeable on the higher resolution image. Could be my eyes but I'm good at pattern recognition.
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Old 27-05-2009, 06:20 PM
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Not sure Trevor. Could have been some residual masking in PS, that has not been blurred to filter the effect. Your monitor gamma must be rather high to notice it.

If you can point out what you see and where in the image that would be constructive. Keen to correct it if the processing is flawed.

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Old 27-05-2009, 11:07 PM
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Hey missed this one Jase

It's a fascinating area that...and this is a marathon effort for sure and an amazing FOV Very clever..nice and subtle job, I like it

God I'd love an FSQ

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Old 27-05-2009, 11:09 PM
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What, because its WWW?, or the image quality?.
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What, because its WWW?, or the image quality?.
You drinkin again Fred?

Are you refering to Jases image or the FSQ

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Old 27-05-2009, 11:35 PM
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Old 27-05-2009, 11:59 PM
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Of course, the image quality and FOV it provides as well as being pretty fast at F5, some of us can't set and forget our scopes over several nights so mozaics and ultra long exposures are rare beasts for us

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Fantastic image!! Steve would be proud!

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Old 28-05-2009, 03:50 PM
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Hey missed this one Jase

It's a fascinating area that...and this is a marathon effort for sure and an amazing FOV Very clever..nice and subtle job, I like it

God I'd love an FSQ

Mike
Thanks Mike. Yes a fascinating area. I checked out your rendition, think it needs some updating. Its well placed at the moment, though you'll need to ditch those narrowband filters to do it justice.

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Fantastic image!! Steve would be proud!

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Thanks Tom. Thought it may spark your interest given you enjoy dusty photons. One for your target list perhaps.
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Old 28-05-2009, 06:34 PM
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Top of the shelf wide field and seamless mosaic Here Jase!
But we expect nothing less from you

Just love what the 'Q' coupled with an ST11k can do for imaging...
In the right hands that is.

More please

All the best
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Old 28-05-2009, 08:52 PM
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Thanks Mike. Yes a fascinating area. I checked out your rendition, think it needs some updating. Its well placed at the moment
Ooooh so it is....


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Old 28-05-2009, 10:26 PM
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Thanks for sharing this unusual nebula and the methods you used to obtain it. Excellent work.
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Top of the shelf wide field and seamless mosaic Here Jase!
But we expect nothing less from you

Just love what the 'Q' coupled with an ST11k can do for imaging...
In the right hands that is.

More please

All the best
Rich
Thanks Rich! Expectations eh. Sheeesh.
A few more projects to come with the FSQ. Stay tuned.

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.....I did
Good stuff. I await your result.

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Thanks for sharing this unusual nebula and the methods you used to obtain it. Excellent work.
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A pleasure Scott. Pleased you liked it.

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