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Old 30-04-2009, 02:20 PM
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similar to another website I have been on, which is a database of plans and mechanical drawings of cars, boats, ships, trains etc.
Got a link for that one Stephen?

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Old 30-04-2009, 02:26 PM
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Hi Ron

I just came accross your post on manuals. How do you access them.
I am a collector of a specific type of manual (most of which copyright expired years ago). I collect and scan Meccano manuals. I have not got the full set but I have a representative collection of just about everything from 1906. I also have quite a few service manuals for TV's VCR's TV cameras etc.

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Hi Barry, I hope you are well since the last time I visited you. I'll write to you off line seeing I know you and we can discuss your collection at length, I don't really want to turn this thread into a copyright debate or to dwell on non-astronomical themes. I'll drop you an e-mail shortly
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Old 30-04-2009, 03:54 PM
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Jason, would you believe I have lost it, but I will ask a friend who has the link and post asap.

Barry, I have a lot of Meccano magazines scanned as jpg's. Interested?
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Old 30-04-2009, 04:12 PM
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Barry, I have a lot of Meccano magazines scanned as jpg's. Interested?
I would love to have a copy also, are you able to e-mail them to info@manualmuseum.com If possible, send in blocks or chunks, so as not to totally clog the inbox, however it will take a fair size
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Jason, would you believe I have lost it, but I will ask a friend who has the link and post asap.

Barry, I have a lot of Meccano magazines scanned as jpg's. Interested?
Thanks for the offer. I already have a full set on DVD.
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On the flip side of my argument, I'm just looking t the instruction manual for my George Foreman Grilling Machine - as an example. It doesn't even contain a copyright notice of any kind. Even still - is it protected by copyright?
Copyright is an unregistered intellectual property right. Once you have created something, you have the copyright in it, even a squiggle in the sand! People or organisations may add the copyright symbol and a notice to identify themselves and to assert their copyright in the item to anyone that sees it. Copyright law is designed to give you the ability to stop others if they are copying your work to their economic advantage and/or your economic disadvantage.

Like any other intellectual property right, a copyright owner can sell or give away the copyright to someone else, but, interestingly the "author" maintains certain moral rights to the work which could restrict the new copyright owner unless the prior copyright owner also waives those moral rights.

But you don't want to know about the stuff I have to deal with for a living!
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Old 30-04-2009, 05:04 PM
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Sorry Eric - the question was rhetorical - of course the law still applies.

I know what you mean with dealing with it for a living. As an IT development manager I see more lawyers than I do code cutters these days.

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Copyright is an unregistered intellectual property right. Once you have created something, you have the copyright in it, even a squiggle in the sand! People or organisations may add the copyright symbol and a notice to identify themselves and to assert their copyright in the item to anyone that sees it. Copyright law is designed to give you the ability to stop others if they are copying your work to their economic advantage and/or your economic disadvantage.

Like any other intellectual property right, a copyright owner can sell or give away the copyright to someone else, but, interestingly the "author" maintains certain moral rights to the work which could restrict the new copyright owner unless the prior copyright owner also waives those moral rights.

But you don't want to know about the stuff I have to deal with for a living!
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Very interesting.
Great work Ron is there a copyright manual???
It is easier to ask for forgiveness than to seek permission and the lawyers will only go you if you appear to have money and I offer to remove any of it before they try to tag you and hide it for you.

Ron is a wonderful man it would be an unfortunate choice for anyone to do him harm when he is so decent...

All the best Ron I will pop in maybe next week for a chat and get those things for the scope.

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Old 30-04-2009, 05:29 PM
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Thank you all, especially Alex, you are too kind. You are however correct, anyone suing me would be very sadly dissapointed, in fact they may actually have to support me first to get anything out of me. It's true, the only thing of worth I own in the entire universe is my mind, and well, to be quite frank, that's not worth a great deal

Can't wait to see you again soon Alex, so we can do a bit of cage fighting please bringg your protective vest
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Thank you for the contribution

I would like to thank the IIS member who sent through a very nice contribution to the Manual Museum, the manuals are greatly appreciated, thank you very much.
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I've started a new group

FACKIT

"Freedom Against Copyright Kill Intellectual Twaddle"

and frankly FACKIT will support anyone sending a manual in

as far as we are concerned as long as no one benefits $$$ then whats the harm
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Old 01-05-2009, 09:37 PM
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Trevor, regardless of right or wrong, you are certainly a wordsmith on ya mate, it seems that W.A. finest are certainly not afraid to say what they think
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The site I was referring to is: www.the-blueprints.com

I have no association with it, but it has assisted my in the past with plans for models.
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Old 14-05-2009, 10:23 AM
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Ahhhhh excellent website, thank you for the lead, they are not too dissimilar to us, and I have written off to them with a view to shared linking. Thanks again.
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