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Old 04-03-2009, 08:06 PM
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if you had 3 thousand dollas what would you by is more like the question

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Trevor, if I had $3000 I would buy a big Dob . If I could only choose between a SCT and a Mak , then the Mak would win hands down.

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Old 04-03-2009, 11:12 PM
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There are many excellent responses to this tread, but don't insist that people vote in the poll. Superficially similar, maks and SCTs are really quite different telescopes. Maks are generally heavier and more expensive when compared to identically apertured SCTs.

It is probably more valid to compare a mak to a quality long FL apo refractor. These are both generally considered excellent lunar and planetary telescopes. In this comparison, a good mak is often lighter, more lugable, possessing a shorter moment arm, and cheaper.

My opinion, anyway.

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Old 05-03-2009, 12:47 AM
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Given that this 6" mak is my new travel scope, what do you think I voted

As has just been noted, a Mak is like a short tubed long tube refractor! But don't expect to get Aperture fever with one that's all.

This new Skywatcher Black Diamond job of mine has already given the best 6" views I have ever seen, so I am mighty impressed. It will allow me to do some reasonable research on the road so I am happy.

If you are after an all rounder - get an SCT. Everything is a bit compromised, but I still contend that an LX90 8" is the best 'one stop' telescope ever produced.
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Just want to make a couple of points here.

1. Maks and SCT's have different design characteristics and therefore there is no real better unit. It all depends on what you have in mind for it's use. Maks do have certain optical qualities that I was looking for before buying the C14 for planetary imaging. The price and cool down times certainly had an impact on the purchase. That said small Maks give lovely views of the planets but are very slow for DSO viewing and imaging. SCT's are commercially made at a price and therefore are not as good as they could be. They require flatteners and reducers to work as DSO scopes. The main Strength again for an SCT is planetary imaging over viewing. Although contrast can be an issue with the SCT.

2. Marki, Russian Maks often have collimation screws installed into them. In fact I think it is the Intes version has primary and secondary collimation screws. It is mainly the commercial companies that make maks without collimation screws.

Trevor whatever you choose, I reckon it is worth telling us what you want to use the scope for first, that way you will get a practical answer rather than a theoretical bunch of talk.
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Old 05-03-2009, 07:44 PM
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Just want to make a couple of points here.

1. Maks and SCT's have different design characteristics and therefore there is no real better unit. It all depends on what you have in mind for it's use. Maks do have certain optical qualities that I was looking for before buying the C14 for planetary imaging. The price and cool down times certainly had an impact on the purchase. That said small Maks give lovely views of the planets but are very slow for DSO viewing and imaging. SCT's are commercially made at a price and therefore are not as good as they could be. They require flatteners and reducers to work as DSO scopes. The main Strength again for an SCT is planetary imaging over viewing. Although contrast can be an issue with the SCT.

2. Marki, Russian Maks often have collimation screws installed into them. In fact I think it is the Intes version has primary and secondary collimation screws. It is mainly the commercial companies that make maks without collimation screws.

Trevor whatever you choose, I reckon it is worth telling us what you want to use the scope for first, that way you will get a practical answer rather than a theoretical bunch of talk.
i didnt want to buy or sell one but ive got an sct and i wanted to see the advantagers of a mak the vote was a thing just to see what others thought were better i havn't voted and i never will but i saw meady advertising there new mak newt so i started the thread to work out what the difrences were and why they addvertise mak newt by the way what is a mak newt like are they the same as a normal mak?
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Given that this 6" mak is my new travel scope, what do you think I voted

As has just been noted, a Mak is like a short tubed long tube refractor! But don't expect to get Aperture fever with one that's all.

This new Skywatcher Black Diamond job of mine has already given the best 6" views I have ever seen, so I am mighty impressed. It will allow me to do some reasonable research on the road so I am happy.

If you are after an all rounder - get an SCT. Everything is a bit compromised, but I still contend that an LX90 8" is the best 'one stop' telescope ever produced.
beautiful scope it looks good i like the colar of the black diamond i have it on my 12" dob but it looks a million times better on a mak
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Just want to make a couple of points here.


2. Marki, Russian Maks often have collimation screws installed into them. In fact I think it is the Intes version has primary and secondary collimation screws. It is mainly the commercial companies that make maks without collimation screws.

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Yes Paul you are right there. I have not seen too many Intes scopes about so I was making general comments about the run of the mill skywatchers etc.

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What is a mak newt like are they the same as a normal mak?
Um, no. (There is also a thing called a Schmidt Newtonian.) These look like ordinary newtonians, but they have a corrector plate up front to compensate for
coma and also eliminate diffraction spikes.
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Um, no. (There is also a thing called a Schmidt Newtonian.) These look like ordinary newtonians, but they have a corrector plate up front to compensate for coma and also eliminate diffraction spikes.
BUT WHAT ABOUT THE MAK NEWT
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Old 06-03-2009, 12:01 AM
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BUT WHAT ABOUT THE MAK NEWT
Basically these are newtonian reflectors with a mak corrector plate bolted to the front. Obviously there is some tweeking of the mirrors.

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Hi all
Google is the best!!!!

http://www.skywatchertelescope.net/s...e.php?class1=1Cheers
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you can edit them csb which means you can change them
Ah Ha! Another one who thinks life is like 'Home & Away' > "Let's just edit this scene out and change this here, everything will be ok".

Life is more like 'The Butterfly Effect' ; you don't know the consequences!

> > > > >

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