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Old 08-02-2009, 01:24 PM
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[/quote] We would so love the Govt to build a pipeline from up north down to Victoria We're in desperate need of water down here but nothing seems to be done. Water catchments down to about 32% now.

Liz that 150 mls wouldn't we just love it [/quote]


Renormalised I wasn't serious about the pipeline. It's something Victorians joke about when there is torrential rain anywhere up north while we're experiencing a 10 year drought down here.

Of course it would be an impossible task

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Old 08-02-2009, 01:38 PM
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Mind numbing scenes on telly this morning. Thoughts go out to all of you. Hope everyone down south stays safe today.
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Old 08-02-2009, 01:39 PM
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I know, but some people are....what you need to do is move up here. All this rain...no fires
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Old 08-02-2009, 01:52 PM
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I know, but some people are....what you need to do is move up here. All this rain...no fires

...... and NO clear skies, scope going/gone mouldy

Has been a death in my home town of Bendigo, and many house destroyed.

I see theres a bit of rain going thru southern Vic at moment, hope it helps a little.
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Old 08-02-2009, 01:58 PM
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...... and NO clear skies, scope going/gone mouldy

Has been a death in my home town of Bendigo, and many house destroyed.

I see theres a bit of rain going thru southern Vic at moment, hope it helps a little.
I know, I packed my scope away before most of this rain came, so hopefully it'll be OK. Will get some sil' gel though, just in case

They need a good dowsing with rain....let's hope they get it.
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Old 08-02-2009, 02:52 PM
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"I love a sunburnt country,
A land of sweeping plains,
Of ragged mountain ranges,
Of drought and flooding rains,
I love her far horizons,
I love her jewel sea,
Her beauty and her terror -
The wide brown land for me."
From My Country by Dorothea MacKellar

This part of htis poem seems to tell a bit of of the last day or so in a way. Droughts and with them fires that are out of control, and flooding rains. But it's disheartening to know there are those idiots who go out there and light these fires on purpose. The law is too soft on them.

One thing I do see over and over in these times is that as Australians we always stick together. You just have to look at the support in the IIS community for a start. We're not in this alone. To all who have lost loved ones and property - my heart goes out to you.
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Old 08-02-2009, 06:03 PM
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This is what can happen in suburbia.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7yNKl_ZQmY

I never thought that this would happen (this bad in 1 hour). Lost 5-8 houses, no loss of life, dam lucky the CFA rolled up. They were on their way to Bunyip fires, when they had to turn back.
If they hadn't of turned up, the fire would be still going and there most definately would be deaths.
It's just sad all these people in other areas, died in the fires.
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Old 08-02-2009, 06:10 PM
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Those firefighters all deserve the highest recognition we can give them. How many of them will be lost before this is over? And they go in knowing this. True heroes!
My complete sympathies go out to those who lost loved ones. I shudder to think what those poor souls went through before losing their lives.

As for those who have deliberately lit fires and are still doing so after seeing what devestation has occured, an eye for an eye I say. Jail is too good for them.
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Old 08-02-2009, 07:41 PM
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I just had a report from the local CFA that the Kankoona/ Beechworth fire is making it's way solidly up our valley. It is now 20Km from the centre of Mt Beauty and spotting fires all over the valley floor. The temprature is still around 35 degrees but fortunately the wind has dropped.
Looks like this valley has a 3 year fire cycle. 2003, 2006 and now 2009. We are fairly fortunate that our valley has been burnt off so many times it must reduce the ferocity of the fires to some degree.
The cooler weather which has past through Melbourne has again bypassed the North East.
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Old 08-02-2009, 07:57 PM
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Is it true as mentioned in the press today that the vic RFS has no authority to order people to evacuate areas as a fire approaches ?.

The tragic loss of life today is unbelievable .. yes I know fires are unpredictable and arn't ever the same twice ..But I still can't fathom how so many people were still in the way of this with no way out until the last minute ..
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Old 08-02-2009, 08:04 PM
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Sorry state of affairs in VIC 65-66 dead hope everyone of our country Vic members are OK and haven't been affected by the devastation.

Sympathy and best wishes to all Victorians who may have been affected.
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Old 08-02-2009, 08:10 PM
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The fire travelled that fast in places and the lack of road networks in semi rural & rural areas meant that people were trapped.
A howling north wind meant that embers started fires well ahead of the actual fire front.This meant that roads were cut off trapping people in their homes.
ABC radio took calls from numerous people last night and early this morning from people trapped in homes with no route of escape.

Only a few km's from my house approx a dozen houses were lost in Narre Warren when a paddock fire took hold in minutes.
People had enough time to get out of the houses before they went up

Current offical death toll is 66
Don't be surprised if this at least doubles.
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Old 08-02-2009, 08:43 PM
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I have just completed watching Nine's extended News bulletin and I am more shocked than what I have witnessed at work today working in the emergency services. Marysville and Kinglake are towns in name only.

From the Herald Sun website

"UPDATE 8:17pm: GRAVE fears are held for Channel 9 veteran Brian Naylor as the bushfire death toll rises to 76.
Channel 9 has just confirmed that the newsreading legend, who lives in fire-ravaged Kinglake West, can not be accounted for.

In a break in their normal programming, presenter Tony Jones reported that a body believed to be that of Moiree Naylor had been found close to the family's address."

I am reeling in shock and shaking. I have work colleagues fighting the fire still.

Please, all involved and potentially affected, please try to keep up to date on either:
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Old 08-02-2009, 08:50 PM
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i watched the abc news in horra our thoughts and prayers go out to those who have lost loved ones there property can be replaced all those ice in space members in the area keep safe where thinking of you tonight
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Old 08-02-2009, 09:01 PM
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And to think that these fires are often deliberately lit! If ever these idiots are caught, they should be burned at the stake.
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Old 08-02-2009, 09:13 PM
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My thoughts, heart and prayers go out to you all.

Post-tragedy, what else can one do but pray?

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Old 08-02-2009, 09:18 PM
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still burning just above the divide, been very lucky here, ash and stuff falling from the sky, strangely my little part of the yarra valley has been exempt from the devastation. heres a pic looking over towards healesville and the now non existent marysville. taken 4ish on Saturday from my house

fires currently to the east , the south and the worst to the north. safe for now, and unless the weather goes bad again should be ok
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Old 08-02-2009, 09:45 PM
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I cannot imagine what affected people are truly going through; the media reports and footage are horrific, let alone the reality of being there.

Things like this really bring our gripes regarding light pollution, noisy neighbours, poor trading or the economic crisis into perspective.

It is ironic that yesterday the media reported that the area under waterin QLD is the size of Victoria.

My thoughts and prayers are with all who are directly or indirectly affected, and to all those who are trying to help in any way.

Keep safe all those North and South of us.
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Old 08-02-2009, 10:52 PM
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Without doubt this a tragedy which plumbs depths of despair which few of us can really appreciate.

We almost lost our house in the Sydney fires of 1994. Ours was a happy conclusion. No so for many others.

The one thing I did do after this very nasty scare was up our house insurance by a factor of two (pre-fire ours was woefully inadequate)

Suggest you all have a good look at the fine print (eg definitions of "valuables" in your insurance policies.

It's very sobering to calculate the cost of losing *everything* material to your life.....let alone family or friends. Have place for those irreplaceable items....and a plan to get out if the worst happens.
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My thoughts go out to all who live in these towns very sad
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