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07-01-2009, 11:14 PM
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Blimey what an awesome scope.
My congratulations on a wonderful purchase Greg. Boy are you going to have fun with that toy.
Cheers
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08-01-2009, 12:06 AM
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Eh does this mean there's is a BRC on the market? The next thing to get is a mount that you can have all of your scopes on at once. Maybe a nice solid bent knee type, no flip, no flex, no counter weights and no cable issues.
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08-01-2009, 12:51 AM
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LOL now THAT would make a nice guidescope !
Congrats Greg on that "wonderful work of art" !
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08-01-2009, 01:10 AM
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Now that looks nice. The packing crate probably cost more than my scope.
Can't wait to see some results. Should knock a few off their perches.
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08-01-2009, 05:02 AM
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Galaxy hitchhiking guide
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Originally Posted by gregbradley
I believe it is the only one in Australia and probably only one of a few in the whole southern hemisphere.
Greg. 
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Nah. I had one. Sold it due spherical error.
Just kidding!
Cool toy. Should work very well with the U16
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08-01-2009, 07:33 AM
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Let there be night...
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And here's me "aspiring" to an FSQ.
Nice machine. I notice that there is a guy on the the TEC site gallery that actually has the 200. That's obscene. Yours is merely outrageous.
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08-01-2009, 07:42 AM
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Originally Posted by gregbradley
Just came in today after a 1 year wait. One of only 30 made (#30).
I believe it is the only one in Australia and probably only one of a few in the whole southern hemisphere.
Greg. 
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I think there were a few for sale on the SPSP swap tables -
We'll know we've made it when we get less buggered focusers and moon filter and more stuff like that for sale.
What mount will you be putting it on?
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08-01-2009, 07:58 AM
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Originally Posted by gbeal
Whatever Dennis is on, I want some. LOL.
Congrats Greg.
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I must be on the same thing ...  I would never spend that much on a hobby, probably coz I can't  . Still I'd take the family for a trip overseas.  . Congrats on the new toy Greg. ... wait ... who am I kidding. It's a Rolls Royce!
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08-01-2009, 08:47 AM
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I have detailed files....
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Originally Posted by RB
LOL now THAT would make a nice guidescope !
Congrats Greg on that "wonderful work of art" !

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HA HA HA! Classic!
Mount that puppy on a Guan Sheng Newtonian on an Eq5 type mount as a guidescope for a webcam imager......hmmm, not a bad idea!
Now I just need to rummage around behind the lounge cushions for some money to buy one, or two....
Chris
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08-01-2009, 09:31 AM
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Its all been said before. Lovely scope and I hope it gives you much pleasure.
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08-01-2009, 10:10 AM
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Thanks for all the well wishes. I thought about it a long time before pulling the trigger (eh when the dollar was higher too).
Yes I am very happy to recieve such a fine instrument. It is quite large in aperture but not that long - like an FS152 in length similar focal length at 1260mm. It isn't particularly heavy (22kgs or so?) with most of the weight at the lens end.
I consider it a heritage scope as I intend to pass it down over time in the family knowing full well Yuri, like Roland Christen before him, is likely at any tme to stop making large fluorite triplets. Tak has already stopped making fluorite lenses. Yuri recently announced he is no longer making 200mm scopes as the glass supply quality was too inconsistent in the larger sizes. I am sure Roland Christen went down this same path and the difficulty of getting high quality glass plus the time and difficulty of making a large lens just made it impractical. Daniel Verschase has a 200mm fluorite and Yuri did make a couple of those.
This fluorite is from Schott Glass in Germany and I went to TEC in Golden Colorado in March last year for a visit. Yuri showed me the CaF2 blanks for the scope. It was milky looking and about an inch thick. He said it was worth a few thousand dollars. The lenses are ground on a polishing machine which looked computerised and then finished by hand. He makes his own metal parts with a CNC machine and the focuser is a Feathertouch.
I will do the green laser test at one point. My green laser gave out so I'll have to get another one. I've done that test on a FS Tak and it is amazing to see the beam disappear in the fluorite lens.
I am not sure what to do for first light. I won't publish it unless it turns out well thats for sure!
Any suggestions?
I also need adapters (oh not again) to attach my cameras unless I can cobble something together with the lot I already have.
Greg
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08-01-2009, 10:23 AM
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Let there be night...
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gregbradley
I will do the green laser test at one point. My green laser gave out so I'll have to get another one. I've done that test on a FS Tak and it is amazing to see the beam disappear in the fluorite lens.
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??? What's this about Greg?
EDIT: OK - I get it now. Just tried it on both Taks, and the laser dissappears as it hits the front (fluorite) element to reappear again going through the rear ED element. Cool! Interestingly, the beam also seemed to dissappear when aimed at the 7x50 finder's objective....could it be CaFL?
Last edited by Omaroo; 08-01-2009 at 11:08 AM.
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08-01-2009, 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by gregbradley
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Originally Posted by avandonk
If you want invisible just shine a greenlaser down your scope. The fluorite element does not scatter light at all !
Bert
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08-01-2009, 11:06 AM
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From what I read, with fluorite you only see the entry and exit points of the laser beam and it is invisible between them. In other materials, the path of the beam is visible due to scattering of the light.
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08-01-2009, 02:42 PM
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avandonk
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Fluorite or Calcium Fluoride in a 'perfect' single crystal has a cubic arrangement of the atoms so it is isotropic (very low birefringence). Unlike any glasses that have impurities and density inhomogenaeities no matter how carefully made, it has very little scattering effect on light. It also has the property of low dispersion. That is variation of refractive index to wavelength.
It is so unlike any glass with inherent impurities and inhomogenaeities. This is why the laser beam disappears.
Bert
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08-01-2009, 03:00 PM
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Congratulations on your special purchase.
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08-01-2009, 05:59 PM
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Billions and Billions ...
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gregbradley
... I am not sure what to do for first light. I won't publish it unless it turns out well thats for sure!
Any suggestions?
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Greg
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No, don't care - do anything and make it snappy    You've got a bunch of people here dying to hear how it performs! An eyeball star test will do!! (no pressure though  )
By the way Greg - do you have any money left to buy food? Every time I look you've got another scope ... not that I'm envious or anything
Cheers, Marcus
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08-01-2009, 06:19 PM
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with a 1260mm focal length, I'd give it first light on NGC2264, With your camera and that scope you should be able to frame it very nicely, have great image scale, enough aperture to capture the faint details and variations in the clouds.. Could be a stunner....
You could be boring and do Eta Carine.. It should also fit nicely into frame... but as has been said before.. its one of those over imaged objects, and to make your image stand out it would have to be stupendously good... Mind you, given your gear and your vast skill set... If anyone could do it!!
Marcus - As you say.. he who dies with the most toys wins!  Greg takes the lead!!
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08-01-2009, 06:27 PM
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Marcus - As you say.. he who dies with the most toys wins!  Greg takes the lead!! 
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Greg has been in the lead for the past 3 years at least!
Turbo
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08-01-2009, 10:34 PM
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Hi Turbs,
Good to hear from you.
Thanks Alex - NGC2264 not a bad choice. There's some Ha there that can be done whilst the moon is up.
Thanks Marcus I'll see what I can do.
I managed to scrounge around my plethora of adapters and found I can cobble together a setup without waiting for a custom adapter.
Its windy but clear at my dark site tonight so hopefully tomorrow night won't be windy and get dust over that lens!
Greg.
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