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Old 05-09-2005, 10:07 PM
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I must be CRAZY! --- that's what I was thinking as I was driving off from York Optical in Melbourne with my new Fujinon 8x42 BFL. I have never seen these binos before (neither in person nor on any websites) and I usually never buy anything until I shopped around to get an idea of what's a fair price. But these seemed to have an edge on every other pair I looked at. For those who do not like to read long posts: I paid $300 for them and very happy with them after a quick (10min) look at the night sky 1-1.5h after sunset.

I must have gone to just about every camera store in the CBD. Most of them did not have anything close to what I was after, but I got to try out these binos (in the city, so looking at buildings/streetsigns, not ideal):

- Minolta Activa 12x50: not impressed. Blurry edge of FOV and seemed miscollimated (one edge can be sharp the opposite edge blurry). Sharpness and/or contrast did not impress.
- Olympus 10x42 EXPS I: these seemed quite good. Nice sharp images, and bright.
- Nikon Action EX 8x40: did not get a good look and I did not bother to try very hard because I was not going to buy Nikon, but they left me with no "wow these are so much better than ..." impression.
- Saxon 9x63: I just tried these because they were on special for $109. Heavy, awkward to hold, and pretty ordinary sharpness & contrast
- and some other Saxon's and lesser known / cheaper brands; all worse than the AOE 7x50s they were to replace

At this point I was thinking I'd be ordering ordering the Olympus 8x42 EXPS I from centre.net.au for $206 or maybe the 8x40 Marine binos from Andrews for $149 (I want to get a 30mm right-angle finder from Andrews anyway). But I thought that I might as well drop in at York Optical on Swanston St before heading home, even though their prices seem overly inflated from what I remember of their website...

Well, they actually had a better selection of binos than any of the camera shops; and some really big scopes to distract me for a little while (6" refractor, 12" Dob WOW they're big). The salesguy Andrew did not really give me much advice about the binos; just put them in front of me and let me look. I did not mind the no pressure approach. There was Konus 8x40 for $290, Fujinon 8x42 for $340, and some other new brand 7x50 for $250. After staring at Federation square and a crane in the distance for 5-10 minutes through the different binos, the Fujinon was a clear winner to me and better than any other binos I tried. But the price was a bit over my already reluctant budget of $300. In the end Andrew offered it to me for $300 and I gave in.

I had a chance to try them out handheld shortly after twilight and I am very happy so far. Jupiter is a sharp disk. Even Venus is clear with no flaring. There are some diffraction spikes (at least that's what they look like) with these planets, but it's nothing distracting. Stars are sharp pinpoints. The view is better than any other binos I've used (and the best ones I've used at night were the AOE 7x50s). It really draws you in, and it's very clear. I had a look around the teapot: Lagoon and its companion bright & clear; M22 stood out clearly, was unmistakable as a glob; M17 clearly visible; open clusters beautiful and colours (reds and blues) clearly seen in some brighter stars. Now, this is still with a bit of twilight around just under 1.5 hours after sunset in a light polluted suburb less than 20km from the CBD.

Visually, the coatings look very good (strong green at right angle to the glass, cyan at off angles, and violet at grazing angles). Mechanically everything feels perfect. The focus is very smooth. The diopter adjustment turns in soft clicks. The size of the binos is perfect for handheld use. It's light (specs say 560g) and it fits like a glove; very comfortable. A lot more comfy than 7x50s.

All in all I suspect I got a very nice pair of binos worth the little bit of a hefty price tag.

Now listen everyone! Be honest and don't feel like you need to congratulate me on this purchase. Feel free to tell me if you think I paid too much or about the unsuitability of these binos for astronomy. (Here's one thing I picked out already: some shiny metal bits seen through the objective lens. Also, I looked them up on Fujinon's website after I got home, and they are sold as birding binos...)
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Old 05-09-2005, 10:44 PM
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After staring at Federation square and a crane in the distance for 5-10 minutes through the different binos, the Fujinon was a clear winner to me and better than any other binos I tried.

(Is that crane still there? I swear I was looking at it years ago when I bought my 15x70s. )

Congratulations! I have no idea really, but I suspect you got a good deal. BTW, definitely worth asking for a discount with Andrew, especially if you're paying cash.

Cheers,

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Old 05-09-2005, 10:45 PM
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I have a pair of 7x50 Bresser Binos and a pair of 12-30x50 Bino's. The 7x50's are excellent and are steady enough to hand hold. As an added bonus they have good eye relief. The 12-30's on the other hand are not useable hand held even at minimum zoom, perform poorly when zoomed and have terrible eye relief.
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Old 05-09-2005, 11:14 PM
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My reference point on what you guys pay for gear is not calibrated correctly, so I don't have a clue if you got a good price or not.

All that matters is whether or not YOU are happy with what you bought!
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Old 05-09-2005, 11:46 PM
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All that matters is whether or not YOU are happy with what you bought!
Hmm, I'd have to disagree with that... Ignorance may be bliss, but I'd rather have as much of the full picture as I can get.
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Old 06-09-2005, 12:26 AM
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Hmm, I'd have to disagree with that... Ignorance may be bliss, but I'd rather have as much of the full picture as I can get.
Why???

Does it make the views any better or worse?

You will ALWAYS find someone that paid less than you did and someone else that paid more than you did - no matter how good/bad of a deal you got.

I guess I look at this as a hobby: any money spent is in persuit of enjoyment. Sure, I always want to spend my money wisely, but if you are buying quality equipment that is going to cost several hundred dollars, why quibble over $10, $20, or $30 dollars if you really like how the gear performs.

Consider this: If it really is as good of a performer as you say it is, chances are you'll keep them for the rest of your life. Even if you overpaid by $100 - average that out over the number of times you'll use it for the rest of your life, and you'll quickly see that it wasn't that much money.

The deal is done just enjoy what you got
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Old 06-09-2005, 12:32 AM
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Sometimes its best to be happy with what you bought and not check the prices for a while
Theres a lot to be said for instant gratification when the buying urge grabs ya
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Old 06-09-2005, 01:09 AM
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Sounds like a nice pair of Binos to me Steve,8x42, I think is a good all round size and weight,for handholding day and night.
Hope you enjoy them.
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Old 06-09-2005, 01:39 AM
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I've been looking through the cloudcover over Melbourne with my new Fujinons and I think I will be very happy with them.
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Old 06-09-2005, 12:23 PM
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Steve,

I don't think you could do any better for the money. These appear to be a new product with a RRP in the USA of over $US400 and on special for $US 270 so paying $AUS 300 for them was steal. Binoculars at this level you would expect to perform somewhat better than those other models you looked at and your initial views appear to confirm this.

Does it say on the packaging, literature or the binos themselves where they are made ?

Nice find.

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Old 06-09-2005, 12:38 PM
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Made in Japan, John. ... with limited lifetime warranty.
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Old 06-09-2005, 02:11 PM
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I dont think you could do any better than those at that price level Steve and you have probably found one of the best buys of the year.

They should be a pretty high standard of binocular and infinitely superior to the cheaper chinese/taiwanese products available for not a lot of extra money. I am actually keen to get a look through a pair of these and try them out, so I might chase up York Optical in Sydney.

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Old 06-09-2005, 02:14 PM
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You got them now Steve, good on ya they sound pretty good to me. Enjoy them.
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Old 06-09-2005, 02:36 PM
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I know nothing bout binos at all but I am guessing that the Go-lo ones will be collecting dust from now on
the colours sound right from your viewing report, stars sharp, etc... couldnt ask for more
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Old 06-09-2005, 03:42 PM
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I don't know David. I could ask for a refund on the Fujinon and get 15 more GoLo 10x50s and start an ebay business.

High grade professional 10x50 binoculars. $1 No reserve!

[ touched-up & digitally enhanced close-up photo of plastic binos goes here ]

Features

- Huge 50mm aperture for ultra bright images
- Professional porro prism design for better contrast
- High performance lens brings objects 10 times closer
- Outstanding clarity with Advanced Ruby Coating to minimise glare and protect from harmful infrared radiation
- Central focusing wheel with rubber coating for precise control
- Full range diopter adjustment to accommodate user's eyesight
- Long eye relief for maximum comfort with or without glasses
- Ergonomic rubber coating for secure and comfortable grip
- Built in compass so you don't get lost

Similar binoculars sell for over $100 in the stores! This is your chance to finally own professional grade large binoculars for a fraction of what you would expect to pay!

Limited stocks. Do not miss out! Bidding starts at just $1!!!


Due to high demand, purchases will be limited to three per customer.

Buy Now Price: $39.95

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Old 06-09-2005, 03:58 PM
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i'll buy one!

d'oh! you were kidding werent you

can you see galaxies with it?
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Old 06-09-2005, 04:07 PM
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Sure you can! I've seen three already! (I'll let you guess which ones )

You can have one David. With postage that comes to $68.95, but just for you I'll do a super deal at $60 incl. postage.
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Old 07-09-2005, 01:37 AM
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Allright I am really reselling my GoLo binos! Check this out:

http://www.iceinspace.com.au/forum/s...ead.php?t=3898
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