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Old 30-10-2008, 06:05 PM
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Me... Hold off on buying astro toys... NAAAAH...

I'll be a bit more picky and choosie over what I buy and where from.. but in general, these things happen... How do you say "oh im not buying astro gear because the aussie dollar has fallen" When do you decide that the AUD has regained enough to justify starting to spend again? when it gets back to 90+c?? You might be in for a LOOONNNNNNGG wait.. and personally... I cant go 20 minutes with out buying at least something small to add to my ever growing box of astro-goodies... EQDIR + cables arrived today, yes I paid more for these items than most people have due to the dollar, but I wanted it, and I just didnt care... same with my K3CCDtools 3 registration.. a few people got it for $56~$65 when the dollar was good, I paid closer to $85.. But, I wanted it, and now I have it.. simple as that...
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Old 30-10-2008, 08:13 PM
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im fortunate enough to have accumulated pretty much all i need at the moment,

will purchase the XY Orion guider attatchment when one of the vendors calls me to say they have one in stock, i called them both some time ago..... first to call gets the sale,

thats about it for me, the bigger mount and 16 inch RCOS will just have to wait a bit
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Old 30-10-2008, 08:46 PM
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Clive... dont be a wuss.. the 20" RCOS isn't much more $$ than the 16, and if you get a paramount, it will hold the 20" + everything you need
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Old 30-10-2008, 09:59 PM
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Well it looks like the Aussie dollar is on a upward trend, climbing back. In the last 24hours last nigh to now, the dollar has climbed from 60 to 68cents. And hopefully more interest rate cuts next week might see it go up further. Lets hope the trend continues.

We need more like the Argo Navis, and Deep Sky optics, SDM etc.

And the clever way maybe to make some good designs and get them manufactured in China. Have a stron QC and then on sell it. TMB designed scopes are being made by WO and Lomo etc. Why are there no Aussies in this field?

Sureley we could find a way to create a Goto system based on the ArgoNavis as a brain and put it on a locally made or locally assembled mount. Why could we not produce the quality the likes of Paramount.

Given we have the darkest skies on the planet, could we not create dark sky projects that use all Australia manufactured Telescopes and accessories?

Could someone not make a SkyPOD like observatory locally. I mean it costs 1500-2000dollars US and by the time we get it hear its climbed in price to 5000grand. IF the Americans can manufacture and sell it at profit for 2000grand cant we do the same. And would it not cost less for the Americans or Europeans to buy from us?




Surely we must have such talent.

While we may well put or overseas purchases on hold should we not consider what is in our backyard. What can we do and Why not give it a go.


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Old 30-10-2008, 10:47 PM
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And hopefully more interest rate cuts next week might see it go up further. Lets hope the trend continues.
Sorry Fahim it works the other way around. Interests rates going down pushes our dollar down as foreign investors withdraw from our currency to chase better gains elsewhere.
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Old 30-10-2008, 11:48 PM
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Sorry Fahim it works the other way around. Interests rates going down pushes our dollar down as foreign investors withdraw from our currency to chase better gains elsewhere.
Well that's how it used to work , but our exchange rate went the other way lately .... go figure .... there is no logic in the international financial system.
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Old 31-10-2008, 01:24 AM
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I knew there was a reason i hated economics. Thanks for the correction.
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Old 31-10-2008, 01:37 AM
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Well that's how it used to work , but our exchange rate went the other way lately .... go figure .... there is no logic in the international financial system.
Think back to recent history. What happened just as the RBA was announcing a 1% rate drop?
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Old 31-10-2008, 11:16 AM
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Eek!!!!

Most likely a Doomsday scenario...but makes for fairly uneasy reading:

http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/news...956285611.html

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Old 31-10-2008, 05:20 PM
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Silly prices Thank goodness ive got it all now dont need more.......cheers Kev.
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Old 31-10-2008, 05:42 PM
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l wonder if the manufacturers and retailers adjust their profit margins to keep products competitive or just go with the full price rise and see what happens.
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Old 31-10-2008, 05:55 PM
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Think back to recent history. What happened just as the RBA was announcing a 1% rate drop?
Every other nation was moving interest rates the same direct at the same time .... so ????
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Old 31-10-2008, 05:59 PM
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Eek!!!!

Most likely a Doomsday scenario...but makes for fairly uneasy reading:

http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/news...956285611.html

I can't see the Reserve Bank and Canberra allowing it to fall that low , they might Peg it if that looks like a serious outcome.

Remember Howard and his ratbags are now gone.
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Old 31-10-2008, 07:28 PM
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From what I understand, one reason that the US$ is high is that all the loans being called in by the Banks were originally written in US$, and that's what they are having to be repaid in, consequently, the US$ is at a premium. Sounds like a reasonable explanation.

By the way, has anyone looked at Meade's stock price recently? A couple of days ago it was at 15cents, and in 2000 it was over $35!! Can they hang in? That puts their market capitalisation at less than $5million, about the same value as a block of say 12 units in an average suburb. If you are interested here are the details. Makes you wonder what the scopes are REALLY worth, doesn't it?
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Old 31-10-2008, 07:48 PM
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Hoover up some the bargains that those that struggling are forced to offer. Help some other Astronomer out of his or her bind, if you can afford to...
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Old 31-10-2008, 08:28 PM
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From what I understand, one reason that the US$ is high is that all the loans being called in by the Banks were originally written in US$, and that's what they are having to be repaid in, consequently, the US$ is at a premium. Sounds like a reasonable explanation.

By the way, has anyone looked at Meade's stock price recently? A couple of days ago it was at 15cents, and in 2000 it was over $35!! Can they hang in? That puts their market capitalisation at less than $5million, about the same value as a block of say 12 units in an average suburb. If you are interested here are the details. Makes you wonder what the scopes are REALLY worth, doesn't it?
I expect they are very heavily geared and will likely go offshore to China and will probably eventually become a chinese company.

I have vague recallection that not so long ago Meade was under Chapter 11 protection. Correct me someone if I am wrong, I may be confusing them with Celestron.
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Old 01-11-2008, 09:38 AM
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If i recall when A long term buyer of there stock got control they moved there assembly to mexico ? ... And sliced off the directors/ major shareholders very generous salery packages they were paying themselves.

Broke .. ?.. probably not ..yet!.... Somone will buy it
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Old 27-11-2008, 01:55 PM
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Arrow The rise and fall of the Australian Dollar

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So why has our dollar gone down at all when its the US dollar that is in trouble not ours so ours should go up not down our economy is fine and getting stronger so Why???
The reasons are varied and a little complex. However, bear with me and I
will attempt to explain.

Firstly it is important to appreciate that the Australian Dollar is floated,
which means it can be freely be bought and sold in exchange for other currencies.

One respondent incorrectly stated that -
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the Keating Govt that revalued the AUD$ prior to that it held parity with the US$.
In late 1983, the Hawke Government, of which Keating was the treasurer,
didn't "re-value" the dollar, they "floated" the dollar, a very important
distinction. From late 1974 up until then, the Australian Dollar was not
pegged to the US Dollar. Instead, it was pegged to what was known as
the "Trade Weighted Index", effectively a mixed bag of currencies
weighted in proportion to how much a country trades in goods and services.

As some respondents correctly pointed out, one of the reasons for the decline
in the Aussie Dollar in recent months is because it is generally linked by
currency traders to commodity prices - things like iron, coal, wheat, sugar,
etc. Australia is fortunate enough to be commodity rich. However,
in that regard it is viewed by currency dealers as being one big open cut mine.
When demand for resources drops, so does the value of the Australian
Dollar.

However, one of the biggest reasons for the decline of the Aussie Dollar, if
not the biggest, is what are called "carry trades".

Despite what they loved to boast about, the fact was that interest rates in
Australia during the Howard/Costello years were actually among the highest in
the developed world.

Enter the humble Japanese housewife. What could she possibly have to
do with the dramatic decline of the Australian Dollar?

The Japanese have some of the deepest pockets in the world, with savings
some analysts have estimated to be around US$15,000 billion.

After a period of stunning growth, from around late 1989 onwards,
the Japanese stock market and real estate asset bubble started to deflate.
Those were the days when one square meter of land in the Ginza
cost around US$1.5 million. As a deflationary spiral set in and the price
of real estate collapsed, the Japanese Central Bank set interest rates at
close to zero percent.

By then, many of Japan's technological exports, for which it was famous
and had grown prosperous on, started to decline. With the Nikkei stock market
index dropping from 1989 onwards, the Japanese started to look for
other places in the world to invest their money in which to get a higher rate of
return.

As many economic commentators have noted, in a Japanese household,
it is common for the housewife to control the purse strings and to make
investment strategies.

With official interest rates in Japan so low and during the Howard/Costello
era, official interest rates in Australia very high, Japanese housewives,
international hedge funds and other investors started trading in a risky
but potentially high yield venture called a "carry trade". Essentially you
go to a bank in Japan, take out your own savings and then borrow a whole
lot of extra Yen at say 0.5% interest. You then convert them into Australian
Dollars and invest them in, say, Australian bonds or even just a bank account
earning a much, much higher interest rate of return. For example, over the
past seven years they could earn something like 211% on their investments
in buying Australian Dollars. But the key thing is that in order to make these
investments, many had leveraged themselves by large amounts in taking
out the loans. The loans were easy to get because credit was freely available.

Then it all hits the fan. The US sub-prime crises sees credit start to become
tighter. Commodity prices drop and so does the Australian Dollar. Official
interest rates are cut here in order to stimulate the economy.

It then became time for all those carry trades to unravel their positions, selling
Australian Dollars as fast as they can and converting them back to Yen.
They know if they hold onto them, then what they will earn in interest here
minus exchange rate fees, etc. will be less than what they have to repay their
bank's back home in Japan for the loans.

So down goes the Aussie Dollar and up goes the Yen, to record highs.

How much money are we talking about? Funnily enough, nobody knows
for sure, but estimates of about US$500 billion in carry trades are not
uncommon. That is an enormous amount of money compared to the size
of the economies of most of the countries in the wold.

There are other reasons for the decline of the Aussie. Always keep in mind
that it is freely traded after all. However, despite what one might think,
"that there is no logic or reason for it to decline", then there very much is.
Is there any "fairness" in its decline compared to, say, the US Dollar?
Unfortunately, when markets are concerned, fairness does not enter into it.

Hope the above commentary may be of interest to some.

We wish you all the best for Christmas and the New Year!
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Old 27-11-2008, 02:22 PM
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I'm still on strike as far as buying anything major is concerned , particularly as far as astronomy and camera stuff is concerned .

I'll concentrate on the building a roll-off-roof observing shed , a couple of piers (probably in concrete) , and finishing off my 10" newt OTA rebuild , and maybe picking up a few cheap astro and photo b-n-p's here and at ebay and other places, and that will have to do me for now.

Don't be surprised if places who sell camera stuff and telescopes and accessories have REAL sales before Xmas and in January as you can bet they are hurting as far as sales volumes are concerned , as in not selling much if anything (especially the big ticket items like L lenses, high end scopes and gems, and high end cameras etc).

PS : was checking B&H last night (the rebates are back on Canon L lenses ..... why do we never see these rebates here in Australia BTW, or do the Canon dealers simply pocket it here ??) and noticed an Atlux with dovetail and Starbook and tripod selling there for 5817 USD ==> 9090 aussie lira. Glad I bought mine when I did !!!
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Heads up. US dollar is crashing against other currencies
AUD = approx 77c US at this time.
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