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Old 04-09-2008, 11:30 PM
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Couldn't you wait until next week!!
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Old 05-09-2008, 01:24 AM
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Congrats on the new arrival Chris!!!..It feels great to hear someone finally obtain their dream instrument..enjoy!!..enjoy!!
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Old 05-09-2008, 01:34 AM
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A I'll then try illuminating the reticle with an Orion illuminator off my 12mm ill. reticle EP...if it fits. If not, I'll have to get a genuine Tak unit. Anyone tried this before?

So - form the Tak guys, what accessories do you most use in typical imaging (SLR) situations? The Tak accessory sheet is a killer to follow unless you know EXACTLY what you need. King-size PITA.
Congrats Chris on the new Tak, they're just a dream to use.

The Orion illuminator will go straight on the TAK 7x50 (as mentioned) and as for DSLR accessories, all I use it the usual t-mount and 2" adapter straight into the back of the TAK.
I'm glad I don't have to deal with those proprietary TAK adapters, a pain as you say.
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Old 05-09-2008, 07:41 AM
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Thanks fellas

John - NO!

Andrew - all I needed to reach focus with the DSLR was a Bintel 35mm 2" extension tube. Simple. Nice!

A new day - rain and cloud. Weekend coming.... I think that I'm going to try chanting to a spare pagan rain god and see if it can clear things up for Saturday night. Any one know one I can use that's reliable and not too expensive?
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Old 05-09-2008, 07:43 AM
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how many scopes do you own now Chris!!!! green with envy....
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Old 05-09-2008, 07:59 AM
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how many scopes do you own now Chris!!!! green with envy....
Less than 10 David. Jenny and I have a pact in place. If I get a scope - she gets another Pug. It's sort of a self-regulation thing, because guess who's duty it is to keep the lawn poo-free!
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Old 05-09-2008, 09:24 AM
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Nice setup

Nice setup Chris. I am particularly interested in the dual ring mount setup with the plates top and bottom. Are they a losmandy product or TAK?

I have a TSA102 and I have got the TAK adaptors etc for it. Did my lessons in reading a TAK system chart.

So if you could email me with the info on the plates, I may be able to return the email with info on the TAK adapters.

Your setup looks like the setup Im after
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Old 05-09-2008, 09:49 AM
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Chris

I don't believe that a FeatherTouch focuser is made for the FS-60, a quick email to the folks at FeatherTouch will confirm that, they friendly people to deal with.

As far as the 35 Flattener is concerned, I believe that they were designed for use in the TSA and TOA series of scopes, the triplets, not the FS, a doublet, an email to Takahashi America should confirm that.

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Old 05-09-2008, 10:24 AM
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Great news - the 7x50 finder arrived from Takaya in Canberra just now. Thanks Tak!!

The Orion illuminator fits just fine. WOW - with the focus control on the finder, and the cross hairs illuminated, it is incredibly clear and well focused. The gap in the center of the cross hairs is wonderful - enablng you to see the object without it being hidden. The etched hairs are so fine yet easy to see - especially subtly illuminated. Beautiful! Glad I got it.
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Old 05-09-2008, 10:28 AM
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I don't believe that a FeatherTouch focuser is made for the FS-60, a quick email to the folks at FeatherTouch will confirm that, they friendly people to deal with.

As far as the 35 Flattener is concerned, I believe that they were designed for use in the TSA and TOA series of scopes, the triplets, not the FS, a doublet, an email to Takahashi America should confirm that.

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Thansk John - I'll contact them both. From what I can see, the same flatteners are used on the FS-128.

Time for a 5-pot turret??
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Old 05-09-2008, 10:41 AM
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Hi Chris

Are you sure about that, the FS-128 System Chart I have only shows the Focal Reducer/Flattener which is a different piece of glass, that works fine with the 102 or 128, gives you a nice wide field of view, you just have to make sure your Metal Back Distance is correct.

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Old 05-09-2008, 11:15 AM
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Are you sure about that, the FS-128 System Chart I have only shows the Focal Reducer/Flattener which is a different piece of glass, that works fine with the 102 or 128, gives you a nice wide field of view, you just have to make sure your Metal Back Distance is correct.

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LOL! No, I'm not sure at all! Just a couple of sites I've found that mention that they are "compatible" or "the same", but these are personal blogs, so could be utterly wrong. I'll delve deeper!
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Old 05-09-2008, 11:21 AM
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Just checked my TSA102 system chart against a FS102 and the camera angle adaptor that you are asking about is the same .. TKA23200 ..

Hope that helps
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Old 05-09-2008, 11:23 AM
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Just checked my TSA102 system chart against a FS102 and the camera angle adaptor that you are asking about is the same .. TKA23200 ..

Hope that helps
Thanks Jeff - it's on my list!
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Old 05-09-2008, 11:42 AM
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Hi Chris

I will try and explain it to you, , remember this is Tak......

There are 3 different Extenders/Focal Reducers and Flatteners.

The CAA is the same for all the 2.7" focusers.

For the FS-102/128 you use the Focal Reducer/Flattener, it is 2.7" in Dia and screws onto the CAA, a CA-35 is then screwed to the rear of the Focal Reducer/Flattener, screwed to the rear of the CA-35 is a Wide T-Mount (A special Tak camera mount), attached to the Wide T-Mount is your camera adapter.

The 1.6x Extender just slips into the 2" focuser and brings the scope up to about f/12 or so BUT you need the CA-35 (50.8) to give you the right distance back for your camera's focal plane.

Please note: The CA-35 and the CA-35 (50.8) are two different bits of equipment.

The 35 Flattener is different again, as I said earlier, it was designed for use with the TOA and TSA series which are triplets, not the FS series which are doublets. On the TSA-102 it reduces the focal length from 816mm to 800mm, the FS-102 has a f/l of 820mm. When you use a 35 Flattener in an FS series, I believe that there is not enough Infocus. With the TSA-102 you have to remove the CAA to get enough infocus. The 35 Flattener slides into the 2" focuser and the CA-35 (50.8) slides into it to give the right distance back for your camera.

All very confusing so I hope I have explained it properly

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Old 05-09-2008, 12:11 PM
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Some pictures to help explain:

1. Focal Reducer/Flattener

2. CA-35 (50.8) and CA-35

3. CAA, Reducer/Flattener, CA-35 and Wide T-Mount

4. Same setup in parts

5. Extender 1.6 and CA-35 (50.8)

6. Extender 1.6 and CA-35 (50.8) attached to an FS-102

7. CAA, Reducer/Flattener, CA-35 on an FS-102
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Old 05-09-2008, 01:34 PM
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Gee whiz John - thanks so much for all of this. It's a great help! I'll have to look at how much things are and then get what I need in order of priority. Flat field would be nice for photography, but I'll take an unflattened image for now.

Easiest thing would be: "Check 'D' - All of the above"!
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Old 05-09-2008, 01:39 PM
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Flat field would be nice for photography, but I'll take an unflattened image for now.
Or you could just image through the little 79mm bargain newt until you have all the Tak parts you need for the 102.
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Old 05-09-2008, 01:47 PM
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To be honest, I always thought the FS-102 had a nice flat field at Prime Focus anyway, try it and see

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Old 05-09-2008, 06:37 PM
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thats a nice scope ya got there

i've had mine for about 2 months now and only just set it up tonight for first light! (visual) weather here has been terrible.

i dont even want to look at all the bits i'll eventually 'need' just yet.

from what i've read the 102 should give pretty decent results without the flattener unless your using a big chip, but i guess the best way to find out is to get out there and give it a go.
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